Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] [openstack][nova] Several questions/experiences about _base directory on a big production environment

2014-04-04 Thread Antonio Messina
Hi Alejandro, On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Alejandro Comisario wrote: > I would love to have insights regarding people using _base with no > shared storage but locally on the compute, up&down sides, experiences > & comments. We currently have a small cloud made of heterogeneous hardware. Whe

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] [openstack][nova] Several questions/experiences about _base directory on a big production environment

2014-04-04 Thread Gustavo Randich
Hi Alejandro, In our case, though we use shared storage for volumes and application data, we use local disks for the VM's backing files (_base). To mitigate the space and performance issues, we adopted the following measures, of which standardization and minimization of ami's quantity are very im

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] [openstack][nova] Several questions/experiences about _base directory on a big production environment

2014-04-03 Thread Alejandro Comisario
I would love to have insights regarding people using _base with no shared storage but locally on the compute, up&down sides, experiences & comments. Having base files on the same SATA disks where vm's are running seems big when decoupling _base from shared storage. best regards. Alejandro On Thu

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] [openstack][nova] Several questions/experiences about _base directory on a big production environment

2014-04-03 Thread Alejandro Comisario
Thanks to everyone for the prompted respones! Its clear that _base on NFS is not the way to go 100% when thinking about avoiding dissasters. So, i believe its good to start talking about not using _base backing files and maybe impressions IF using _base, concerns about having these files locally on

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] [openstack][nova] Several questions/experiences about _base directory on a big production environment

2014-04-02 Thread matt
the original goal of cloud and openstack was to adhere to a service oriented architecture so that you could rely on n+1 service structures. this goes back to the puppies versus cattle thing. of course, openstack just isn't all the way there yet, and when we as operators go out and try to ensure p

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] [openstack][nova] Several questions/experiences about _base directory on a big production environment

2014-04-02 Thread Diego Parrilla SantamarĂ­a
Dear Alejandro, every time we run a script to prune the _base directory in our enviroments we raise a pray to Santa Bárbara ( http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1rbara_(m%C3%A1rtir)#Patronazgo). Yes, _base folder with shared storage is a risky business. Have you considered not using _base backed