Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 21/01/14 13:14 -0500, Joe Gordon wrote: On Jan 17, 2014 12:24 AM, "Flavio Percoco" wrote: On 16/01/14 17:32 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2014-01-16 13:48, John Griffith wrote: Hey Everyone, A review came up today th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron]About creating vms without ip address

2014-01-22 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Hi Dong, Can you elaborate an example of what you get, and what you were expecting exactly?. I have a similar problem within one operator, where they assign you sparse blocks of IP addresses (floating IPs), directly routed to your machine, and they also assign the virtual mac add

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Neutron] PMTUd broken in gre networks

2014-01-22 Thread Ian Wells
On 22 January 2014 00:00, Robert Collins wrote: > I think dropping frames that can't be forwarded is entirely sane - at > a guess it's what a physical ethernet switch would do if you try to > send a 1600 byte frame (on a non-jumbo-frame switched network) - but > perhaps there is an actual standar

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're deploying within the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an Overcloud with 1 Controller and 3 Compute, Heat will create a Stack that contains 1 Controller and 3 Com

[openstack-dev] Questions regarding image "location" and glanceclient behaviour ...

2014-01-22 Thread Public Mail
Hi All, I have two questions ... 1) Glance v1 APIs can take a --location argument when creating an image but v2 APIs can't - bug or feature? (Details below) 2) How should glanceclient (v2 commands) handle reserved attributes? a) status quo: (Apparently) let the user se

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're deploying within the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an Overcloud with 1 Controller and 3 Compute, Heat will create a Stack that contains 1 Controller and 3 Com

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][oslo] Upgrade six to 1.5.2?

2014-01-22 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Jan 21 2014, ZhiQiang Fan wrote: > six 1.5.2 has been released on 2014-01-06, it provides urllib/urlparse > compatibility. Is there any plan to upgrade six to 1.5.2? (since it is > fresh new, may need some time to test) > > six 1.4.1 is lack of urllib/urlparse support, so oslo-incubator/py

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: > I would like to propose having a integration test job in Oslo incubator > that syncs in the code, similar to how we do global requirements. I don't think that would be possible as a voting job, since the point of oslo-incubator is to be able to break the A

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-22 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 22/01/2014 02:50, Jay Pipes a écrit : Yup, agreed. It's difficult to guess what the capacity implications would be without having solid numbers on customer demands for this functionality, including hard data on how long such instances would typically live (see my previous point about re-using

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] How to include nova modules in unit tests

2014-01-22 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 22/01/2014 01:37, Dugger, Donald D a écrit : Sylvain- Tnx, that worked great. (Now if I can just find a way to get the affinity tests working, all the other tests pass. I only have 17 tests failing out of 254.) I'm pretty busy these days with Climate 0.1 to deliver, but if I find so

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][oslo] Upgrade six to 1.5.2?

2014-01-22 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21 2014, ZhiQiang Fan wrote: > > > six 1.5.2 has been released on 2014-01-06, it provides urllib/urlparse > > compatibility. Is there any plan to upgrade six to 1.5.2? (since it is > > fresh new, may need some time to test) > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Neutron] PMTUd broken in gre networks

2014-01-22 Thread Robert Collins
On 22 January 2014 21:28, Ian Wells wrote: > On 22 January 2014 00:00, Robert Collins wrote: >> >> I think dropping frames that can't be forwarded is entirely sane - at >> >> a guess it's what a physical ethernet switch would do if you try to >> send a 1600 byte frame (on a non-jumbo-frame switch

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Tempest Tests for Trove -- Next Steps

2014-01-22 Thread Nikhil Manchanda
Hello Team: As some of you are aware, I've been working on a couple of reviews to add Trove testing support to devstack-gate (viz. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65040/, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65065/). Hopefully these will be merged soon. The next part of the integration plan is t

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Reducing pep8 ignores

2014-01-22 Thread Pavlo Shchelokovskyy
Hi all, we have an approved blueprint that concerns reducing number of ignored PEP8 and openstack/hacking style checks for heat ( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/reduce-flake8-ignored-rules). I've been already warned that enabling some of these rules will be quite controversial, and pe

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] savannaclient v2 api

2014-01-22 Thread Alexander Ignatov
Current EDP config-hints are not only plugin specific. Several types of jobs must have certain key/values and without it job will fail. For instance, MapReduce (former Jar) job type requires Mapper/Reducer classes parameters to be set[1]. Moreover, for such kind of jobs we already have separated

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][oslo] Upgrade six to 1.5.2?

2014-01-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 22/01/14 11:40 +0100, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Tue, Jan 21 2014, ZhiQiang Fan wrote: > six 1.5.2 has been released on 2014-01-06, it provides urllib/urlparse > compatibility. Is there any plan to upgrade six to 1.5.2? (since

Re: [openstack-dev] Disabling file injection *by default*

2014-01-22 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On 01/22/2014 03:27 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 22 January 2014 10:50, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: >> [CC'ed libguestfs author, Rich Jones] >> >> Heya, >> >> >> On 01/21/2014 07:59 AM, Robert Collins wrote: >>> I was reminded of this while I cleaned up failed file injection nbd >>> devices on ci-o

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Neutron] PMTUd broken in gre networks

2014-01-22 Thread Ian Wells
On 22 January 2014 12:01, Robert Collins wrote: > > Getting the MTU *right* on all hosts seems to be key to keeping your hair > > attached to your head for a little longer. Hence the DHCP suggestion to > set > > it to the right value. > > I certainly think having the MTU set to the right value i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] A pair of mode keywords

2014-01-22 Thread Ian Wells
On 21 January 2014 22:46, Veiga, Anthony wrote: > >Hi, Sean and Xuhan: > > I totally agree. This is not the ultimate solution with the assumption > that we had to use “enable_dhcp”. > > We haven’t decided the name of another parameter, however, we are open > to any suggestions. As we mention

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 2014/22/01 10:00, Jaromir Coufal wrote: On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're deploying within the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an Overcloud with 1 Controller and 3 Compute, Heat will create

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Hello, Jaromir On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > I am leaning towards Role. We can be more specific with adding some extra > word, e.g.: > * Node Role > We use this term a lot internally for the very similar purpose, so it looks reasonable to me. Just my 2c. -- Best re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Reducing pep8 ignores

2014-01-22 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:23:05PM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: > Hi all, > > we have an approved blueprint that concerns reducing number of ignored PEP8 > and openstack/hacking style checks for heat ( > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/reduce-flake8-ignored-rules). > I've been al

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Reducing pep8 ignores

2014-01-22 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/22/2014 06:23 AM, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: > Hi all, > > we have an approved blueprint that concerns reducing number of ignored > PEP8 and openstack/hacking style checks for heat > (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/reduce-flake8-ignored-rules). > I've been already warned that e

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/22/2014 05:19 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> I would like to propose having a integration test job in Oslo incubator >> that syncs in the code, similar to how we do global requirements. > > I don't think that would be possible as a voting job, since t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] PCI pass-through SRIOV

2014-01-22 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Sounds great! Let's do it on Thursday. --Robert On 1/22/14 12:46 AM, "Irena Berezovsky" mailto:ire...@mellanox.com>> wrote: Hi Robert, all, I would suggest not to delay the SR-IOV discussion to the next week. Let’s try to cover the SRIOV side and especially the nova-neutron interaction points

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron should disallow /32 CIDR

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Ward
Thanks for your input, Carl. You're right, it seems the more appropriate place for this is _validate_subnet(). It checks ip version, gateway, etc... but not the size of the subnet. Carl Baldwin wrote on 01/21/2014 09:22:55 PM: > From: Carl Baldwin > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List ,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
That's a fair question; I'd argue that it *should* be resources. When we update an overcloud deployment, it'll create additional resources. Mainn - Original Message - > > > On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: > > Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what w

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
- Original Message - > > > On 2014/22/01 10:00, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > > > > > On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: > >> Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're > >> deploying within > >> the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an O

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 22/01/14 07:32 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/22/2014 05:19 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: I would like to propose having a integration test job in Oslo incubator that syncs in the code, similar to how we do global requirements. I don't think that would be

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
> > On 2014/22/01 10:00, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: > > >> Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're > > >> deploying within > > >> the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an Overcloud > > >> with 1

[openstack-dev] Gate Update - Wed Morning Edition

2014-01-22 Thread Sean Dague
Things aren't great, but they are actually better than yesterday. Vital Stats: Gate queue length: 107 Check queue length: 107 Head of gate entered: 45hrs ago Changes merged in last 24hrs: 58 The 58 changes merged is actually a good number, not a great number, but best we've seen in a numb

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Dougal Matthews
On 22/01/14 14:31, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: On 2014/22/01 10:00, Jaromir Coufal wrote: On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're deploying within the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an Overcloud with 1 Con

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-22 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: Sylvain Bauza > > Le 22/01/2014 02:50, Jay Pipes a écrit : > > > > Yup, agreed. It's difficult to guess what the capacity implications > > would be without having solid numbers on customer demands for this > > functionality, including hard data on how long such instances would > > typical

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-22 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Jay Pipes wrote on 01/21/2014 08:50:36 PM: ... > On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 14:28 +, Day, Phil wrote: > > > > > > > > I think there is clear water between this and the existing > aggregate based > > > isolation. I also think this is a different use case from > reservations. It's > > > *mostly*

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate Update - Wed Morning Edition

2014-01-22 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/22/2014 09:38 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Things aren't great, but they are actually better than yesterday. > > Vital Stats: > Gate queue length: 107 > Check queue length: 107 > Head of gate entered: 45hrs ago > Changes merged in last 24hrs: 58 > > The 58 changes merged is actually a go

Re: [openstack-dev] Next steps for Whole Host allocation / Pclouds

2014-01-22 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 22/01/2014 15:57, Mike Spreitzer a écrit : Is that enough? Remember that some of us are concerned with business workloads, rather than HPC jobs. While it might be acceptable in a business workload to plan on regularly recycling every individual instance, it is definitely not acceptable t

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate Update - Wed Morning Edition

2014-01-22 Thread Salvatore Orlando
It's worth noticing that elastic recheck is signalling bug 1253896 and bug 1224001 but they have actually the same signature. I found also interesting that neutron is triggering a lot bug 1254890, which appears to be a hang on /dev/nbdX during key injection; so far I have no explanation for that.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Liz Blanchard
On Jan 22, 2014, at 4:02 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > > On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: >> Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're >> deploying within >> the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an Overcloud with 1 >> Controller >> and

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Liz Blanchard
On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Dougal Matthews wrote: > On 22/01/14 14:31, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: On 2014/22/01 10:00, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > > On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: >> Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're >> deplo

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Liz Blanchard
On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > > On 2014/22/01 10:00, Jaromir Coufal wrote: >> >> >> On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: >>> Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're >>> deploying within >>> the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specif

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > > > > > > On 2014/22/01 10:00, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: > >>> Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're > >>> deploying within > >>> the Overcloud Stack

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 4:02 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > > > > > > On 2014/22/01 00:56, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: > >> Hiya - Resource is actually a Heat term that corresponds to what we're > >> deploying within > >> the Overcloud Stack - i.e., if we specify that we want an Overcloud with 1 > >> Co

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Oh dear user... :) I'll step a little bit back. We need to agree if we want to name concepts one way in the background and other way in the UI for user (did we already agree on this point?). We all know pros and cons. And I will still fight for users to get global infrastructure terminology (

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] [UX] Infrastructure Management UI - Icehouse scoped wireframes

2014-01-22 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hey everybody, I am sending updated wireframes. http://people.redhat.com/~jcoufal/openstack/tripleo/2014-01-22_tripleo-ui-icehouse.pdf Updates: * p15-18 for down-scaling deployment Any questions are welcome, I am happy to answer them. -- Jarda On 2014/16/01 01:50, Jaromir Coufal wrote: Hi f

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Liz Blanchard
On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > Oh dear user... :) > > I'll step a little bit back. We need to agree if we want to name concepts one > way in the background and other way in the UI for user (did we already agree > on this point?). We all know pros and cons. And I will st

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] [UX] Infrastructure Management UI - Icehouse scoped wireframes

2014-01-22 Thread Liz Blanchard
On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:02 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > Hello everybody, > > based on feedback which I received last week, I am sending updated > wireframes. They are still not completely final, more use-cases and smaller > updates will occur, but I believe that we are going forward pretty well.

[openstack-dev] [Trove] how to list available configuration parameters for datastores

2014-01-22 Thread Craig Vyvial
Hey everyone I have run into an issue with the configuration parameter URI. I'd like some input on what the URI might look like for getting the list configuration parameters for a specific datastore. Problem: Configuration parameters need to be selected per datastore. Currently: Its setup to use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] A pair of mode keywords

2014-01-22 Thread Xuhan Peng
Ian,  I think the last "two attributes" PDF from Shixiong's last email is trying to solve the problem you are saying, right? — Xu Han Peng (xuhanp) On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Ian Wells wrote: > On 21 January 2014 22:46, Veiga, Anthony > wrote: >> >>Hi, Sean and Xuhan: >> >> I tota

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] A pair of mode keywords

2014-01-22 Thread Collins, Sean
I don't know if it's reasonable to expect a deployment of OpenStack that has an *external* DHCP server. It's certainly hard to imagine how you'd get the Neutron API and an external DHCP server to agree on an IP assignment, since OpenStack expects to be the source of truth. -- Sean M. Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] [UX] Infrastructure Management UI - Icehouse scoped wireframes

2014-01-22 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
Thanks for the update! One question - is it possible to move the "Deploying Status" bar from page 12 to page 14? The reason is that the former looks like a "Deployment Creation" page, while the latter is a "Deployment Detail" page. For me, the former is about sending parameters to the API to

Re: [openstack-dev] Questions regarding image "location" and glanceclient behaviour ...

2014-01-22 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Public Mail wrote: > Hi All, > > I have two questions ... > > 1) Glance v1 APIs can take a --location argument when creating an image >but v2 APIs can't - bug or feature? (Details below) > I'd call that a missing feature. I think we probably need

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Neutron] PMTUd broken in gre networks

2014-01-22 Thread Rick Jones
On 01/22/2014 03:01 AM, Robert Collins wrote: I certainly think having the MTU set to the right value is important. I wonder if there's a standard way we can signal the MTU (e.g. in the virtio interface) other than DHCP. Not because DHCP is bad, but because that would work with statically injecte

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Property protections not being enforced?

2014-01-22 Thread Tom Leaman
Thanks for spotting that one Mark! Good catch! I've put together a quick test case and patch for this. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68420 Thanks again. Tom On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:48:40PM -0800, Mark Washenberger wrote: > I found the cause. When using role-based protections, instead of st

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] how to list available configuration parameters for datastores

2014-01-22 Thread Robert Myers
I like #4 over #5 because it seems weird to have to create a configuration first to see what parameters are allowed. With #4 you could look up what is allowed first then create your configuration. Robert On Jan 22, 2014 10:18 AM, "Craig Vyvial" wrote: > Hey everyone I have run into an issue with

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Dan Prince
I've been thinking a bit more about how TripleO updates are developing specifically with regards to compute nodes. What is commonly called the "update story" I think. As I understand it we expect people to actually have to reboot a compute node in the cluster in order to deploy an update. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-01-22 06:32, Sean Dague wrote: I think we need to graduate things to stable interfaces a lot faster. Realizing that stable just means "have to deprecate to change it". So the interface is still changeable, just requires standard deprecation techniques. Which we are trying to get more pyth

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 22/01/14 10:59 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2014-01-22 06:32, Sean Dague wrote: I think we need to graduate things to stable interfaces a lot faster. Realizing that stable just means "have to deprecate to change it". So the interface is still changeable, just requires standard deprecation techn

[openstack-dev] FW: [horizon] hypervisor summary page shows incorrect stats on overcommiting cpu/disk/ram in openstack

2014-01-22 Thread Penmetcha, Surya NarayanaRaju
Hi, Though cpu/disk/ram stats are overcommitted in openstack, hypervisor summary page in horizon UI displays the actual stats on compute node instead of overcommitted values calculated in openstack. This gives incorrect data to the user while provisioning instances as the used value of cpu/disk

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2014-01-22 09:17:24 -0800: > I've been thinking a bit more about how TripleO updates are developing > specifically with regards to compute nodes. What is commonly called the > "update story" I think. > > As I understand it we expect people to actually have to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Dan Prince
- Original Message - > From: "Clint Byrum" > To: "openstack-dev" > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:45:45 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live > with it? > > Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2014-01-22 09:17:24 -0800: > > I've bee

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] how to list available configuration parameters for datastores

2014-01-22 Thread Kaleb Pomeroy
My thoughts so far: /datastores//configuration/parameters (Option Three) + configuration set without an associated datastore is meaningless + a configuration set must be associated to exactly one datastore + each datastore must have 0-1 configuration set + All above relationships are immediately a

[openstack-dev] Icehouse-2 milestone candidates available

2014-01-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, Milestone-proposed branches were created for Keystone, Glance, Nova, Neutron, Cinder, Ceilometer, Heat and and Trove in preparation for the icehouse-2 milestone publication tomorrow. Horizon should be there in a few hours. You can find candidate tarballs at: http://tarballs.openstac

[openstack-dev] [Swift] 1.12.0 release candidate

2014-01-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, A milestone-proposed branch was created for Swift in preparation for the 1.12.0 release. Please test the proposed delivery to ensure no critical regression found its way in. Release-critical fixes might be backported to the milestone-proposed branch until final release, and will be t

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Another tricky bit left is how to handle service restarts as needed? Thanks, Kevin From: Dan Prince [dpri...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:15 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Russell Bryant
On 01/22/2014 12:17 PM, Dan Prince wrote: > I've been thinking a bit more about how TripleO updates are developing > specifically with regards to compute nodes. What is commonly called the > "update story" I think. > > As I understand it we expect people to actually have to reboot a compute node

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Charles Crouch
Clint wrote: > I would call your e-mail a documentation/roadmap bug. This plan may > have been recorded somewhere, but for me it has just always been in my > head as the end goal (thanks to Robert Collins for drilling the hole > and pouring it in there btw ;). I found the following links helpful i

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate Update - Wed Morning Edition

2014-01-22 Thread Russell Bryant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/22/2014 09:38 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Thanks to everyone that's been pitching in digging on reset bugs. > More help is needed. Many core reviewers are at this point > completely ignoring normal reviews until the gate is back, so if > you are wait

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2014-01-22 10:15:20 -0800: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Clint Byrum" > > To: "openstack-dev" > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:45:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live > > with it? > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

2014-01-22 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
- Original Message - > Oh dear user... :) > > I'll step a little bit back. We need to agree if we want to name > concepts one way in the background and other way in the UI for user (did > we already agree on this point?). We all know pros and cons. And I will > still fight for users to g

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 13:15 -0500, Dan Prince wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Clint Byrum" > > To: "openstack-dev" > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:45:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live > > with it? > > > > Excerpts

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Agreed, it is tricky if we try to only restart what we've changed. OR, just restart everything. We can make endpoints HA and use rolling updates to avoid spurious faults. There are complex ways to handle things even smoother.. but I go back to "What does complexity cost?" Excerpts from Fox, Kevi

[openstack-dev] [Swift] domain-level quotas

2014-01-22 Thread Matthieu Huin
Greetings, I'd be interested in your opinions and feedback on the following blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/domain-level-quotas The idea is to have a middleware checking a domain's current usage against a limit set in the configuration before allowing an upload. The doma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] A pair of mode keywords

2014-01-22 Thread Shixiong Shang
Sean, I agree with you. I prefer OpenStack as the single source of truth. What end user chooses may be different. But with this pair of keywords, at least we provide comprehensive coverage on all scenarios. For Icehouse, I suggest we only consider the supports for the scenarios that OpenStack h

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] A pair of mode keywords

2014-01-22 Thread Shixiong Shang
That is correct, Xu Han! > On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:14 AM, "Xuhan Peng" wrote: > > Ian, > > I think the last "two attributes" PDF from Shixiong's last email is trying to > solve the problem you are saying, right? > — > Xu Han Peng (xuhanp) > > >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Ian Wells

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer] per domain/project/user limits on alarms

2014-01-22 Thread Matthieu Huin
Greetings, I'd be interested in some opinions and feedback on the following blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/quotas-on-alarms I think it'd be interesting to allow admins to limit the number of running alarms at any of the three levels defined by keystone. Thoughts ?

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron should disallow /32 CIDR

2014-01-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
Agreed. That would be a good place for that check. Carl On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Paul Ward wrote: > Thanks for your input, Carl. You're right, it seems the more appropriate > place for this is _validate_subnet(). It checks ip version, gateway, etc... > but not the size of the subnet.

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Datastore Type/Version Migration

2014-01-22 Thread Andrey Shestakov
Hi Looks good approach. Lets start discussion. I propose API spec for it https://gist.github.com/andreyshestakov/8559309 Please look it and add your advices and comments. Thanks On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:44 AM, McReynolds, Auston wrote: > With "Multiple Datastore Types/Versions" merged to mas

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron]About creating vms without ip address

2014-01-22 Thread Yuriy Taraday
Hello. On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Dong Liu wrote: > What's your opinion? > We've just discussed a use case for this today. I want to create a sandbox for Fuel but I can't do it with OpenStack. The reason is a bit different from telecom case: Fuel needs to manage nodes directly via DHCP a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron]About creating vms without ip address

2014-01-22 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Yuriy Taraday wrote: >Fuel needs to manage nodes directly via DHCP and PXE and you can't do that >with Neutron since you can't make its >dnsmasq service quiet. Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? You can turn of Neutron’s dnsmasq on a per network basis, correct? Do you mean something el

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] how to list available configuration parameters for datastores

2014-01-22 Thread Michael Basnight
On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb Pomeroy wrote: > My thoughts so far: > > /datastores//configuration/parameters (Option Three) > + configuration set without an associated datastore is meaningless > + a configuration set must be associated to exactly one datastore > + each datastore must have

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Status update and weekly meeting

2014-01-22 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, At this point we have a few major action items, mostly patches on review. Please note that the gate is in pretty bad shape, so don't expect anything to be approved/merged until this is sorted out. 1) SSL extension https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63510/ The code here is in a good shape

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] milestone-proposed branches

2014-01-22 Thread James Slagle
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > James Slagle wrote: >> [...] >> And yes, I'm volunteering to do the work to support the above, and the >> release work :). > > Let me know if you have any question or need help. The process and tools > used for the integrated release are de

[openstack-dev] [Trove][Discussion] Are we using troveclient/tools/install_venv_common.py ?

2014-01-22 Thread Nilakhya
Hi All, Are we using tools/install_venv_common.py in python-troveclient, If so just let us know. Otherwise, it may be cleaned up (removing it from openstack-common.conf) Thanks. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-01-22 10:53:14 -0800: > On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 13:15 -0500, Dan Prince wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Clint Byrum" > > > To: "openstack-dev" > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:45:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Fox, Kevin M
I think most of the time taken to reboot is spent in bringing down/up the services though, so I'm not sure what it really buys you if you do it all. It may let you skip the crazy long bootup time on "enterprise" hardware, but that could be worked around with kexec on the full reboot method too.

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][Neutron][Tempest][Network] Break down NetworkBasicOps to smaller test cases

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 01:15 -0500, Yair Fried wrote: > I seem to be unable to convey my point using generalization, so I will give a > specific example: > I would like to have "update dns server" as an additional network scenario. > Currently I could add it to the existing module: > > 1. tests c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] how to list available configuration parameters for datastores

2014-01-22 Thread Denis Makogon
Goodday to all. #3 looks more than acceptable. /datastores//configuration/parameters. According to configuration parameters design, a configuration set must be associated to exactly one datastore. Best regards, Denis Makogon. 2014/1/22 Michael Basnight > On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb Po

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Keith Basil
On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 13:15 -0500, Dan Prince wrote: >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "Clint Byrum" >>> To: "openstack-dev" >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:45:45 PM >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2014-01-22 12:19:56 -0800: > I think most of the time taken to reboot is spent in bringing down/up the > services though, so I'm not sure what it really buys you if you do it all. It > may let you skip the crazy long bootup time on "enterprise" hardware, bu

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron]About creating vms without ip address

2014-01-22 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:04 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: > > Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? You can turn of Neutron’s > dnsmasq on a per network basis, correct? Do you mean something else by > “make its dnsmasq service quiet”? > What I meant is for dnsmasq to not send offers to specifi

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][Neutron][Tempest][Network] Break down NetworkBasicOps to smaller test cases

2014-01-22 Thread David Kranz
On 01/22/2014 03:19 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 01:15 -0500, Yair Fried wrote: I seem to be unable to convey my point using generalization, so I will give a specific example: I would like to have "update dns server" as an additional network scenario. Currently I could add it to

[openstack-dev] Changes coming in gate structure

2014-01-22 Thread Sean Dague
Changes coming in gate structure Unless you've been living under a rock, on the moon, around Saturn, you'll have noticed that the gate has been quite backed up the last 2 weeks. Every time we get towards a milestone this gets measur

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 12:12 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-01-22 10:53:14 -0800: > > On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 13:15 -0500, Dan Prince wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Clint Byrum" > > > > To: "openstack-dev" > > > > Sent: Wednesda

Re: [openstack-dev] Changes coming in gate structure

2014-01-22 Thread John Griffith
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > Changes coming in gate structure > > > Unless you've been living under a rock, on the moon, around Saturn, > you'll have noticed that the gate has been quite backed up the last

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Keith Basil's message of 2014-01-22 12:27:50 -0800: > On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > > On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 13:15 -0500, Dan Prince wrote: > >> > >> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Clint Byrum" > >>> To: "openstack-dev" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] how to list available configuration parameters for datastores

2014-01-22 Thread Greg Hill
Another +1 for option 3. Greg On Jan 22, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Denis Makogon mailto:dmako...@mirantis.com>> wrote: Goodday to all. #3 looks more than acceptable. /datastores//configuration/parameters. According to configuration parameters design, a configuration set must be associated to exactly

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] How to include nova modules in unit tests

2014-01-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: > Well, the first goal is to get the scheduler code into a separate tree, > even though that code is still utilizing common code from nova. Right now > just about every scheduler file includes some nova modules. Ultimately > yes, we want

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] our update story: can people live with it?

2014-01-22 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Maybe I misunderstand, but I thought: kexec - lets you boot a new kernel/initrd starting at the point a boot loader would skipping the bios init. All previous running processes are not running in the new boot just like a normal reboot. CRIU - Lets you snapshot/restart running processes. While

Re: [openstack-dev] Changes coming in gate structure

2014-01-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 15:39 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > > == > Executive Summary > == > To summarize, the effects of these changes will be: > > - 1) Decrease the impact of failures resetting the entire gate queue >by doing the heavy testing in t

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 21/01/14 13:14 -0500, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> >> On Jan 17, 2014 12:24 AM, "Flavio Percoco" wrote: >> >>> >>> On 16/01/14 17:32 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ben Nemec wrote:

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