Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Robert Kukura wrote: > [Note - I understand there are ongoing discussion that may lead to a > proposal for an out-of-tree incubation process for new Neutron features. > This is a complementary proposal that describes how our existing development > process can be use

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
> > Adding the GBP extension to Neutron does not change the nature of the > software architecture of Neutron making it more or less monolithic. I agree with this statement...partially: the way GBP was developed is in accordance to the same principles and architectural choices made for the service

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
>This is the statement that makes me trip over, I don't know what that means. Does it mean that you are so incredibly shocked by the stupidity of that statement that you fall down? Or does it mean something else? >Policy decision points can be decentralized from the system under scrutiny, Unfor

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we > produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core > reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's > happening. For such projects, is it

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] devtest environment for virtual or true bare metal

2014-08-08 Thread Ben Nemec
That sounds essentially correct. Note that all 15 vms aren't used in a normal devtest run, but we create them all anyway because of some difficulties adding new environments in some situations (namely CI, I believe). On 08/05/2014 11:27 AM, LeslieWang wrote: > Hi Ben, > Thanks for your reply. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Salvatore Orlando
"If we want to keep everything the way it is, we have to change everything" [1] This is pretty much how I felt after reading this proposal, and I felt that this quote, which Ivar will probably appreciate, was apt to the situation. Recent events have spurred a discussion about the need for a change

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 08/05/2014 09:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is >> facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the >> ultimate success or failure o

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
On 8 August 2014 14:55, Kevin Benton wrote: > >This is the statement that makes me trip over, > > I don't know what that means. Does it mean that you are so incredibly > shocked by the stupidity of that statement that you fall down? Or does it > mean something else? > Why would you think that? I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Passing a list of ResourceGroup's attributes back to its members

2014-08-08 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/08/14 11:07, Tomas Sedovic wrote: On 08/08/14 00:53, Zane Bitter wrote: On 07/08/14 13:22, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi all, I have a ResourceGroup which wraps a custom resource defined in another template: servers: type: OS::Heat::ResourceGroup properties: co

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > That’s right. The preferred approach is to put the register_opt() in > *runtime* code somewhere before the option will be used. That might be in > the constructor for a class that uses an option, for example, as described > in > http://docs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-08 Thread Chet Burgess
On Aug 8, 2014, at 14:09 , Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/06/2014 01:41 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> On 08/06/2014 01:40 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: >>> On 06/08/14 13:30, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 17:27, Tom Fifield wrote: > On 06/08/14 13:24, Robert Collins wrote: >> What

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db]A proposal for DB read/write separation

2014-08-08 Thread Mike Wilson
Li Ma, This is interesting, In general I am in favor of expanding the scope of any read/write separation capabilities that we have. I'm not clear what exactly you are proposing, hopefully you can answer some of my questions inline. The thing I had thought of immediately was detection of whether an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Is network ordering of vNICs guaranteed?

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
If this is true, I think the issue is not on Neutron side but the Nova side. Neutron just receives and handles individual port requests. It has no notion of the order in which they are attached to the VM. Can you add the Nova tag to get some visibility to the Nova devs? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Prasad Vellanki
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Armando M. wrote: > Adding the GBP extension to Neutron does not change the nature of the >> software architecture of Neutron making it more or less monolithic. > > > I agree with this statement...partially: the way GBP was developed is in > accordance to the same

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug squashing day

2014-08-08 Thread Ronak Shah
Hi Eugene, I dig into few medium priority bugs yesterday and today. Have added comments there. I started from the bottom in the list at etherpad. I will continue to go in the reverse order on daily basis as and when I get time. Let me know if you need any specific help wrt this. ping me on irc (rms

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
> One advantage of the service plugin is that one can leverage the neutron > common framework such as Keystone authentication where common scoping is > done. It would be important in the policy type of framework to have such > scoping > The framework you're referring to is common and already reus

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Hemanth Ravi
Hi, Robert Kukura's proposal does address the following: 1. Make it explicit to the user that an API is in "preview" until it's moved out of the preview directories 2. One of the criteria to accept a BP for preview is for the functionality to be optional via configuration. This will not impact th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread gustavo panizzo (gfa)
i like your idea, as an operator, it gives me new features while keep my core running fine. only one think i didn't like it why all url,api, etc has to include the word 'preview'? i imagine that i would be consuming the new feature using heat, puppet, local scripts, custom horizon, whatever. Why

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Hemanth Ravi
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Armando M. wrote: > > >> One advantage of the service plugin is that one can leverage the neutron >> common framework such as Keystone authentication where common scoping is >> done. It would be important in the policy type of framework to have such >> scoping >>

Re: [openstack-dev] What's happening with stable release management?

2014-08-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/09/2014 04:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Thierry Carrez wrote: >> I'll upload a new tarball ASAP. I took down the wrong one. Sorry for the >> inconvenience... the issues here are not a policy problem, they are just >> human error in the original tag, complicated by CI staleness that made >>

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
> > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Armando M. wrote: > >> >> >>> One advantage of the service plugin is that one can leverage the >>> neutron common framework such as Keystone authentication where common >>> scoping is done. It would be important in the policy type of framework to >>> have su

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread trinath.soman...@freescale.com
Hi Kyle- I’m using a paid hosting from GODADDY. The website is http://fslopenstackci.com. I registered this domain too. This time it’s not a free hosting that I used long back. I’m posting to this domain from past 3 months. Does anyone have the same issue with my logs website? -- Trinath

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread trinath.soman...@freescale.com
Hi Sumit- When I try to paste a large log text into paste.openstack, It is giving me image verification and says its spam. I don't know why its taken as spam/malware. It's a paid hosting I had from GODADDY. -- Trinath Somanchi - B39208 trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 -Original

Re: [openstack-dev] Retrigger turbo-hipster

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 02:53 PM, jswar...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: > > I'm unable to retrigger the turbo-hipster verification job on a change > ("recheck migrations" comment retriggers Jenkins but not turbo-hipster) > and I sent an e-mail to rc...@rcbops.com two days ago and still have not > received a re

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 10:06 PM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com wrote: > Hi Sumit- > > When I try to paste a large log text into paste.openstack, It is giving me > image verification and says its spam. Let's not confuse paste.openstack.org's spam blocker from spam blockers on servers. They are two separat

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 07:58 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is >>> facing complex challenges. Ho

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread trinath.soman...@freescale.com
Thanks anita for the reply. Previously the existing server is accessible by kyle. But now its not being accessible. For the paid hosting I have its administered by godaddy and the FTP is only accessed by Jenkins. I can try relocating FTP web based file browser script and provide a normal vi

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 11:27 PM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com wrote: > Thanks anita for the reply. > > Previously the existing server is accessible by kyle. But now its not being > accessible. > > For the paid hosting I have its administered by godaddy If you are paying godaddy to administer the serve

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