[openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.config] Reloading configuration of service

2015-09-17 Thread mhorban
Hi Josh, > Sounds like a useful idea if projects can plug-in themselves into the > reloading process. I definitely think there needs to be a way for > services to plug-in to this, although I'm not quite sure it will be > sufficient at the current time though. > > An example of why: > > - > https

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] RFE process question

2015-09-17 Thread Li Ma
A reasonable user story. Other than tag, a common description field for Neutron resources is also usable. I submitted a RFE bug for review: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1496705 __ OpenStack Development Mailing List

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Please help review this RFE

2015-09-17 Thread Li Ma
Hi Neutron folks, I'd like to introduce a pure python-driven network configuration library to Neutron. A discussion just started in the RFE ticket [1]. I'd like to get feedback on this proposal. [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1492714 Take a look and let me know your thoughts. --

Re: [openstack-dev] [dragonflow] Low OVS version for Ubuntu

2015-09-17 Thread Sudipto Biswas
On Thursday 17 September 2015 12:22 PM, Li Ma wrote: Hi all, I tried to run devstack to deploy dragonflow, but I failed with lower OVS version. I used Ubuntu 14.10 server, but the official package of OVS is 2.1.3 which is much lower than the required version 2.3.1+? So, can anyone provide a

[openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.config] Reloading configuration of service

2015-09-17 Thread mhorban
Hi Doug, > Rather than building hooks into oslo.config, why don't we build them > into the thing that is catching the signal. That way the app can do lots > of things in response to a signal, and one of them might be reloading > the configuration. Hm... Yes... It is really stupid idea to put rel

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] service default value functions

2015-09-17 Thread Yanis Guenane
On 09/16/2015 09:39 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > > On 09/16/2015 12:53 PM, Alex Schultz wrote: >> Hey puppet folks, >> >> Based on the meeting yesterday[0], I had proposed creating a parser >> function called is_service_default[1] to validate if a variable matched >> our agreed upon value of ''.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Bugs which we should accept in 7.0 after Hard Code Freeze

2015-09-17 Thread Adam Heczko
Hi, I'd like to ask for fixing these security related bugs in stable/7.0 branch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1496407 https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1488732 Both are fuel-library related tasks, it is Apache2 and NTPD configuration lifting. Thanks, Adam On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][gate] grende jobs failing.

2015-09-17 Thread Tony Breeds
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 03:34:30PM +1000, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 03:01:53PM +1000, Tony Breeds wrote: > > Hi all, > > The recent relapse of oslo.utils 1.4.1[1] (for juno) is valid in kilo. > > The > > juno global-requirements for Babel are not compatible with kilo so not

[openstack-dev] questions about nova compute monitors extensions

2015-09-17 Thread Hou Gang HG Liu
Hi Jay, I notice nova compute monitor now only tries to load monitors with namespace "nova.compute.monitors.cpu", and only one monitor in one namespace can be enabled( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209499/6/nova/compute/monitors/__init__.py ). Is there a plan to make MonitorHandler.NAMESPACE

Re: [openstack-dev] [dragonflow] Low OVS version for Ubuntu

2015-09-17 Thread Gal Sagie
Hello Li Ma, Dragonflow uses OpenFlow1.3 to communicate with OVS and thats why we need OVS 2.3.1. As suggested you can build it from source. For Fedora 21 OVS2.3.1 is part of the default yum repository. You can ping me on IRC (gsagie at freenode) if you need any additional help how to compile OVS

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] LVM snapshot performance issue -- why isn't thin provisioning the default?

2015-09-17 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 16 September 2015 at 23:43, Eric Harney wrote: > Currently, at least some options set in [DEFAULT] don't apply to > per-driver sections, and require you to set them in the driver section > as well. > This is extremely confusing behaviour. Do you have any examples? I'm not sure if we can fix i

[openstack-dev] [magnum][ptl] Magnum PTL Candidacy

2015-09-17 Thread Hongbin Lu
Hi all, I would like to announce my candidacy for the PTL position of Magnum. I involved in Magnum project starting from December 2014. At that time, Magnum's code base is much smaller than right now. Since then, I worked with a diverse set of team members to land features, discuss the roadmap,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][gate] grende jobs failing.

2015-09-17 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Tony, Looks like the ban is holding up: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224429/ -- Dims On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 03:34:30PM +1000, Tony Breeds wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 03:01:53PM +1000, Tony Breeds wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > T

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] PTL Candidacy

2015-09-17 Thread Ivan Kolodyazhny
Hello everyone, I'm announcing my candidacy for Cinder PTL for the Mitaka release. First of all, I would like to thank John and Mike for their great and hard work making Cinder such a great project with good and a big community. As a Cinder community we made a great progress not only with new fe

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] PTL Non-Candidacy

2015-09-17 Thread Livnat Peer
Kyle, Thank you for the awesome work you did in the past 3 cycles as PTL. You made hard decisions and drove changes that resulted in a more welcoming, easier to work with community, not to mention a more healthy project. I'm very happy I had the chance to work with you, Livnat On Sat, Sep 12, 201

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-17 Thread John Garbutt
On 14 September 2015 at 16:27, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> [...] >> 1. Resolve the situation preventing the DefCore committee from >>including image upload capabilities in the tests used for trademark >>and interoperability validation. >> >> 2. Follow through on the ori

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-17 Thread John Garbutt
On 15 September 2015 at 18:22, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 09/15/2015 07:09 PM, stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: I've been looking into the existing task-based-upload that Doug mentions: can anyone clarify the following? On a default devstack install you can do this 'task' c

[openstack-dev] [keystone] PTL Candidacy

2015-09-17 Thread David Stanek
Hello everyone, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the Keystone PTL for the Mitaka cycle. The project has had great leadership the entire time I have been involved and I want to keep up the tradition. I've been working on Keystone for the past 2 years and I'd like to step up and take more of a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.config] Reloading configuration of service

2015-09-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from mhorban's message of 2015-09-17 10:26:28 +0300: > Hi Doug, > > > Rather than building hooks into oslo.config, why don't we build them > > into the thing that is catching the signal. That way the app can do lots > > of things in response to a signal, and one of them might be reload

Re: [openstack-dev] [defcore] Scoring for DefCore 2016.01 Guideline

2015-09-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 16/09/15 22:26 -0700, Chris Hoge wrote: The DefCore Committee is working on scoring capabilities for the upcoming 2016.01 Guideline, a solid draft of which will be available at the Mitaka summit for community review and will go to the Board of Directors for approaval in Janaury [1]. The curren

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][gate] grende jobs failing.

2015-09-17 Thread Tony Breeds
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 06:22:47AM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Tony, > Looks like the ban is holding up: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224429/ Sorry yes. Robert Collins pointed out that my new quicker plan wasn't going to work so we went back to the original ban 1.4.1 solution. It look

Re: [openstack-dev] [Barbican] Providing service user read access to all tenant's certificates

2015-09-17 Thread Dave McCowan (dmccowan)
The tenant admin from Step 1, should also do Step 2. From: Vijay Venkatachalam mailto:vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 9:57 PM To: "OpenStac

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Is magnum db going to be removed for k8s resources?

2015-09-17 Thread Jay Lau
Anyone who have some comments/suggestions on this? Thanks! On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Jay Lau wrote: > Hi Vikas, > > Thanks for starting this thread. Here just show some of my comments here. > > The reason that Magnum want to get k8s resource via k8s API including two > reasons: > 1) Nativ

[openstack-dev] [Magnum]bay/baymodel sharing for multi-tenants

2015-09-17 Thread Jay Lau
Hi Magnum, Currently, there are about two blueprints related to bay/baymode sharing for different tenants. 1) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/tenant-shared-model 2) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/public-baymodels What we want to do is we can make the bay/baymodel to b

[openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on the wiki[0]. There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new PTL for Barbican, MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and Security There are 7 projects that will have an elec

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 17/09/15 13:25 +, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on the wiki[0]. There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new PTL for Barbican, MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and S

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
On 09/17/2015 01:32 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 17/09/15 13:25 +, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: >> PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on >> the wiki[0]. >> >> There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this >> resolution[1], the TC we'll have to app

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 17/09/15 13:44 +, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: On 09/17/2015 01:32 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 17/09/15 13:25 +, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on the wiki[0]. There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this r

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Douglas Mendizábal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 This is quite unfortunate, as I was intending to submit my candidacy for the Barbican project today, but I did not realize the cutoff time would be in the morning in CDT. I'd like to apologize to the OpenStack community and the Barbican team in part

[openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Neil Jerram
Thanks to the interesting 'default network model' thread, I now know that Neutron allows booting a VM on an external network. :-) I didn't realize that before! So, I'm now wondering what connectivity semantics are expected (or even specified!) for such VMs, and whether they're the same as - or ve

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][gate] grende jobs failing.

2015-09-17 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/17/2015 7:23 AM, Tony Breeds wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 06:22:47AM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Tony, Looks like the ban is holding up: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224429/ Sorry yes. Robert Collins pointed out that my new quicker plan wasn't going to work so we went back to

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Followup to review in gerrit relating to RHOS + RDO types

2015-09-17 Thread Martin André
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:22 AM, wrote: > There is an apparent need for having official RHOS being supported from > our end, and we just so happen to have the possibility of filling that > need. Should the need arise to support whatever fancy proprietary backend > system or even have Kolla integr

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][gate] grende jobs failing.

2015-09-17 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 for range checking and stable team +2's in openstack/releases repo -- dims On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 9/17/2015 7:23 AM, Tony Breeds wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 06:22:47AM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> >>> Tony, >>> Looks like the ban is hold

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Design Summit Topics for Nova

2015-09-17 Thread Tony Breeds
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:40:28AM -0700, melanie witt wrote: > Today I was informed that google forms are blocked in China [1], so I wanted > to mention it here so we can consider an alternate way to collect submissions > from those who might not be able to access the form. I'll act as an email

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on the wiki[0]. There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new PTL for Barbican, MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and Se

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Kevin Benton
It's not true for all plugins, but an external network should provide the same semantics of a normal network. The only difference is that it allows router gateway interfaces to be attached to it. We want to get rid of as much special casing as possible for the external network. On Sep 17, 2015 7:02

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Is magnum db going to be removed for k8s resources?

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Rossiter
Here's what I see if I look at this from a matter-of-fact standpoint. When Nova works with libvirt, libvirt might have something that Nova doesn't know about, but Nova doesn't care. Nova's database is the only world that Nova cares about. This allows Nova to have one source of data. With Magn

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Anita Kuno
On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: >> PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on >> the wiki[0]. >> >> There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this >> resolution[1], the TC we'll have to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Upgrade plans for RDO Manager - Brainstorming

2015-09-17 Thread Jan Provaznik
On 09/09/2015 05:34 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 24/08/15 15:12, Emilien Macchi wrote: Hi, So I've been working on OpenStack deployments for 4 years now and so far RDO Manager is the second installer -after SpinalStack [1]- I'm working on. SpinalStack already had interested features [2] that allo

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Core reviewers for python-tripleoclient and tripleo-common

2015-09-17 Thread James Slagle
Hi, It's been a week, and I've heard no objections this proposal: >> Specifically, the folks I'm proposing are: >> Brad P. Crochet >> Dougal Matthews >> - keep just 1 tripleo acl, and add additional folks there, with a good >> faith agreement not to +/-2,+A code that is not from the 2 client >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Douglas Mendizábal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I think someone jumped the gun on this thread. According to the wiki [1] the cutoff time is not until 5:59 UTC, which doesn't happen for another few hours. [2] Am I missing something? [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_201

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] PTL Non-Candidacy

2015-09-17 Thread John Belamaric
Thanks for all your hard work Kyle. Enjoy your more relaxed schedule :) On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Kyle Mestery mailto:mest...@mestery.com>> wrote: I'm writing to let everyone know that I do not plan to run for Neutron PTL for a fourth cycle. Being a PTL is a rewarding but difficult job, as

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Sean M. Collins
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 09:58:29AM EDT, Neil Jerram wrote: > Specifically I wonder if VM's attached to an external network expect any > particular L2 characteristics, such as being able to L2 broadcast to > each other? I am fairly certain that our definition of a Neutron Network, as a L2 broadcast

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-09-17 10:05:20 -0500 (-0500), Douglas Mendizábal wrote: > I think someone jumped the gun on this thread. According to the wiki > [1] the cutoff time is not until 5:59 UTC, which > doesn't happen for another few hours. [2] Per that page the deadline for nominations is September 17, 05:59 U

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Neil Jerram
Thanks, Kevin. Some further queries, then: On 17/09/15 15:49, Kevin Benton wrote: > > It's not true for all plugins, but an external network should provide > the same semantics of a normal network. > Yes, that makes sense. Clearly the core semantic there is IP. I can imagine reasonable variatio

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
On 09/17/2015 03:05 PM, Douglas Mendizábal wrote: > I think someone jumped the gun on this thread. According to the wiki > [1] the cutoff time is not until 5:59 UTC, which > doesn't happen for another few hours. [2] > > Am I missing something? > > [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Election

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Time.is is showing utc in "PM" not a 24 hour clock. It is past 1500 UTC at the moment. Sent via mobile > On Sep 17, 2015, at 08:05, Douglas Mendizábal > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > I think someone jumped the gun on this thread. According to the wiki > [

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Effective Neutron

2015-09-17 Thread Armando M.
Hi fellow developers and reviewers, Some of you may have noticed that I put together patch [1] up for review. The intention of this initiative is to capture/share 'pills of wisdom' when it comes to Neutron development and reviewing. In fact, there are a number of common patterns (or anti-patterns

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Tony Breeds
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:05:20AM -0500, Douglas Mendizábal wrote: > I think someone jumped the gun on this thread. According to the wiki > [1] the cutoff time is not until 5:59 UTC, which > doesn't happen for another few hours. [2] > > Am I missing something? From the wiki[0]: --- Timeline S

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Effective Neutron

2015-09-17 Thread Gary Kotton
Thanks for marking as WPI From: "Armando M." mailto:arma...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: OpenStack List mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 6:20 PM To: OpenStack List mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Effective Neu

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote: On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on the wiki[0]. There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this resolution

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Clark, Robert Graham
Likewise, I'm not sure I missed the candidacy window, I think our late mid-cycle threw things out of whack slightly. When I saw the Magnum nomination I made a mental note to apply today. This is a poor-show on my part and I apologise to the TC, the community and the Security team for this appar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Effective Neutron

2015-09-17 Thread Edgar Magana
Actually, I am wondering if replacing the Wiki with this great information will be better??? For sure, docs are well structured and they have a great team behind them but the wikis are not the same, gerrit review provide a better way to distribute and update this knowledge… Great initiative Arm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Effective Neutron

2015-09-17 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Armando M. wrote: > Hi fellow developers and reviewers, > > Some of you may have noticed that I put together patch [1] up for review. > > The intention of this initiative is to capture/share 'pills of wisdom' > when it comes to Neutron development and reviewing.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote: > >> On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: >>> PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote: > >> On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: >>> PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on

Re: [openstack-dev] [dragonflow] Low OVS version for Ubuntu

2015-09-17 Thread Assaf Muller
Another issue is that the gate is running with Ubuntu 14.04, which is running OVS 2.0. This means we can't test certain features in Neutron (For example, the OVS ARP responder). On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Gal Sagie wrote: > Hello Li Ma, > > Dragonflow uses OpenFlow1.3 to communicate with O

[openstack-dev] [Security] Leadership / Participation in PTL elections.

2015-09-17 Thread Clark, Robert Graham
Security Folks, Some how I missed the window to nominate myself as a PTL candidate for Security. I have literally no idea how I missed it. I’ve been working on Security project things all week (Anchor and OSSNs mainly) so it’s not like I wasn’t thinking about the Security team! Anyway, I missed t

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.config] Reloading configuration of service

2015-09-17 Thread Joshua Harlow
So a few 'event' like constructs/libraries that I know about: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/taskflow/types.html#taskflow.types.notifier.Notifier I'd be happy to extract that and move to somewhere else if needed, it provides basic event/pub/sub kind of activities for taskflow (in-memory

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.config] Reloading configuration of service

2015-09-17 Thread Joshua Harlow
Agreed, +1 :) Gotta start somewhere to get to somewhere else ;) mhorban wrote: Hi Josh, > Sounds like a useful idea if projects can plug-in themselves into the > reloading process. I definitely think there needs to be a way for > services to plug-in to this, although I'm not quite sure it w

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Monty Taylor wrote: > I agree- and this is a great example of places where human judgement is > better than rules. > > For instance - one of the projects had a nominee but it missed the > deadline, so that's probably an easy on. > > For one of the projects it had been looking dead for a while, so

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Edgar Magana
Folks, Last year I found myself in the same position when I missed a deadline because my wrong planning and time zones nightmare! However, the rules were very clear and I assumed my mistake. So, we should assume that we do not have candidates and follow the already described process. However, t

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is nowover

2015-09-17 Thread Steve Martinelli
>> I'd like to apply some common sense here and if this many candidates on both sides of the globe got confused, we can still take that into consideration when taking next steps. ++ to this, it was clearly a slip up from some folk. let's use our human judgement and common sense here :) Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Kevin Benton
Yes, the L2 semantics apply to the external network as well (at least with ML2). One example of the special casing is the external_network_bridge option in the L3 agent. That would cause the agent to plug directly into a bridge so none of the normal L2 agent wiring would occur. With the L2 bridge_

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Effective Neutron

2015-09-17 Thread Sean M. Collins
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:37:35AM EDT, Edgar Magana wrote: > Actually, I am wondering if replacing the Wiki with this great information > will be better??? > For sure, docs are well structured and they have a great team behind them but > the wikis are not the same, gerrit review provide a better

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptl] Troubleshooting cross-project communications

2015-09-17 Thread Shamail Tahir
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Thierry Carrez > wrote: > >> Anne Gentle wrote: >> > [...] >> > What are some of the problems with each layer? >> > >> > 1. weekly meeting: time zones, global reach, size of cross-project >> > concerns du

Re: [openstack-dev] Pycharm License for OpenStack developers

2015-09-17 Thread Andrew Melton
Hey Devs, I'm the guy who's maintained our JetBrains licenses for the past couple of years. License philosophy aside, the IDE you choose to use is entirely up to you. I'm currently waiting to hear back from JetBrains on the actual license. From the sound of it, the opensource license hasn't ch

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Neil Jerram
Thanks so much for your continuing answers; they are really helping me. I see your points now about the special casing, and about the semantic expectations and internal wiring of a Neutron network being just the same for an external network as for non-external. Hence, the model for an L3-only ext

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Kevin Benton
Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like many paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is never a need to convert TZs, you just get it in by the end of the day in your own time zone. On Sep 17, 2015 9:18 AM, "Edgar Magana" wrote: > Folks, > > Last

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like many > paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is never a > need to convert TZs, you just get it in by the end of the day in your own > time zone. Thi

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] LVM snapshot performance issue -- why isn't thin provisioning the default?

2015-09-17 Thread Eric Harney
On 09/17/2015 05:00 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: > On 16 September 2015 at 23:43, Eric Harney wrote: > >> Currently, at least some options set in [DEFAULT] don't apply to >> per-driver sections, and require you to set them in the driver section >> as well. >> > > This is extremely confusing behaviou

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Neil Jerram
But on the Internet, no one knows that I'm really a crocodile, and writing from Midway... Neil On 17/09/15 18:29, Kevin Benton wrote: > > Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like > many paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is > never a nee

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] service default value functions

2015-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alex Schultz's message of 2015-09-16 09:53:10 -0700: > Hey puppet folks, > > Based on the meeting yesterday[0], I had proposed creating a parser > function called is_service_default[1] to validate if a variable matched our > agreed upon value of ''. This got me thinking about how >

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Proposing Michael Johnson for neutron-lbaas core team

2015-09-17 Thread Edgar Magana
Not a core but I would like to share my +1 about Michael. Cheers, Edgar On 9/16/15, 3:33 PM, "Doug Wiegley" wrote: >Hi all, > >As the Lieutenant of the advanced services, I nominate Michael Johnson to be a >member of the neutron-lbaas core reviewer team. > >Review stats are in line with ot

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] service default value functions

2015-09-17 Thread Matt Fischer
Clint, We're solving a different issue. Before anytime someone added an option we had this logic: if $setting { project_config/setting: value => $setting } else { project_config/setting: ensure => absent; } This was annoying to have to write for every single setting but without it, nobody co

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Kevin Benton
How is it not what I described? Time zones become irrelevant if you get it in by the end of the day in your local time zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > > Maybe i

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Kevin Benton
Midway is still on earth. :) On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: > But on the Internet, no one knows that I'm really a crocodile, and > writing from Midway... > > Neil > > > On 17/09/15 18:29, Kevin Benton wrote: > > > > Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE d

[openstack-dev] [mistral][requirements] lockfile not in global requirements

2015-09-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
The syncing of requirements fails from the requirements repository to mistral-extra with 'lockfile' is not in global-requirements.txt Mistral team, could you either propose to add lockfile to the global requirements file - or remove it from your project, please? for details see: https://jenki

Re: [openstack-dev] [Devstack][Sahara][Cinder] BlockDeviceDriver support in Devstack

2015-09-17 Thread Sean M. Collins
You need to remove your Workflow-1. -- Sean M. Collins __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi

[openstack-dev] [OSSN 0052] Python-swiftclient exposes raw token values in debug logs

2015-09-17 Thread Nathan Kinder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Python-swiftclient exposes raw token values in debug logs - --- ### Summary ### The password and authentication token configuration options for the python-swiftclient are not marked as secret. The values of these options will be logged to the standa

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Proposing Michael Johnson for neutron-lbaas core team

2015-09-17 Thread Brandon Logan
I'm off today so my +1 is more like a +2 On Sep 17, 2015 12:59 PM, Edgar Magana wrote: Not a core but I would like to share my +1 about Michael. Cheers, Edgar On 9/16/15, 3:33 PM, "Doug Wiegley" wrote: >Hi all, > >As the Lieutenant of the advanced services, I nominate Michael Johnson to b

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Brian Curtin
Because it's still day_n AOE in early hours of day_n+1 local-time in a lot of places. I think I have until 6 AM the day after an AOE deadline where it's still considered the deadline date anywhere on earth, as there are still places on earth where the date hasn't flipped. Your EOD is not the deadl

[openstack-dev] [app-catalog] App Catalog IRC meeting minutes - 9/17/2015

2015-09-17 Thread Christopher Aedo
We had a nice meeting today and caught up on some of our plans/intentions for the web site backend. Long ago we knew that a basically static site with assets listed in a YAML would not last for long. It's already causing issues with respect to versions and updates, and makes determining when thin

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Followup to review in gerrit relating to RHOS + RDO types

2015-09-17 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
It appears the core team is mostly in agreement about the idea of having support for commercial distributions of OpenStack in Kolla. The vote was nearly unanimous. That said, there was some feedback that came out of the various comments. As a community: We should set standards by which distro

Re: [openstack-dev] [Sahara] FFE request for improved secret storage

2015-09-17 Thread michael mccune
i am retracting this request, i think this feature would benefit from more time to test and review. thanks for the consideration, mike On 09/09/2015 12:09 PM, michael mccune wrote: hi all, i am requesting an FFE for the improved secret storage feature. this change will allow operators to uti

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Kevin Benton
router:external only affects the behavior of Neutron routers. It allows them to attach to it with an external gateway interface which implies NAT and floating IPs. >From an instance's perspective, an external network would be no different than any other provider network scenario that uses a non-Ne

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] CLI equivalent

2015-09-17 Thread Shiv Haris
Thanks Alex. From: Alex Yip [mailto:a...@vmware.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:48 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] CLI equivalent Try this: openstack congress policy row list classification error​ _

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 17/09/2015 19:26, Kevin Benton a écrit : Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like many paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is never a need to convert TZs, you just get it in by the end of the day in your own time zone. IMHO, the

[openstack-dev] [OSSN 0055] Service accounts may have cloud admin privileges

2015-09-17 Thread Nathan Kinder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Service accounts may have cloud admin privileges - --- ### Summary ### OpenStack services (for example Nova and Glance) typically use a service account in Keystone to perform actions. In some cases this service account has full admin privileges, ma

[openstack-dev] [magnum] Associating patches with bugs/bps (Please don't hurt me)

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Rossiter
I'm going to start out by making this clear: I am not looking to incite a flame war. I've been working in Magnum for a couple of weeks now, and I'm starting to get down the processes for contribution. I'm here to talk about the process of always needing to have a patch associated with a bug or

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Kevin Benton
It guarantees that if you hit the date deadline local time, that you won't miss the deadline. It doesn't matter if there are extra hours afterwards. The idea is that it gets rid of the need to do time zone conversions. If we are trying to do some weird optimization where everyone wants to submit i

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Discovery

2015-09-17 Thread Andrew Melton
Hey Daneyon, I'm fairly partial towards #2 as well. Though, I'm wondering if it's possible to take it a step further. Could we run etcd in each Bay without using the public discovery endpoint? And then, configure Swarm to simply use the internal ectd as it's discovery mechanism? This could cut

Re: [openstack-dev] [Barbican] Providing service user read access to all tenant's certificates

2015-09-17 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Yes Dave, that is what is happening today. But that approach looks a little untidy, because tenant admin has to do some infrastructure work. It will be good from the user/tenant admin's perspective to just do 2 things 1. Upload certificates info 2. Create LBaaS Configuration with cer

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/17/2015 1:43 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 17/09/2015 19:26, Kevin Benton a écrit : Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like many paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is never a need to convert TZs, you just get it in by the end of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Associating patches with bugs/bps (Please don't hurt me)

2015-09-17 Thread Fox, Kevin M
I agree. Lots of projects have this issue. I submitted a bug fix once that literally was 3 characters long, and it took: A short commit message, a long commit message, and a full bug report being filed and cross linked. The amount of time writing it up was orders of magnitude longer then the act

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] What semantics are expected when booting a VM on an external network?

2015-09-17 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: > Yes, the L2 semantics apply to the external network as well (at least with > ML2). This is true and should remain so. I think we've come to the agreement that a neutron Network, external, shared, or not, should be an L2 broadcast domain and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-09-17 18:10:26 +0200: > Monty Taylor wrote: > > I agree- and this is a great example of places where human judgement is > > better than rules. > > > > For instance - one of the projects had a nominee but it missed the > > deadline, so that's probably

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > It guarantees that if you hit the date deadline local time, that you won't > miss the deadline. It doesn't matter if there are extra hours afterwards. > The idea is that it gets rid of the need to do time zone conversions. > > If we are tryi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-09-17 12:51:33 -0700: > I think this is all superfluous however and we should simply encourage > people to not wait until the last minute. Waiting to see who is > running/what the field looks like isn't as important as standing up and > saying you're

[openstack-dev] [murano] [app-catalog] versions for murano assets in the catalog

2015-09-17 Thread Christopher Aedo
One big thing missing from the App Catalog right now is the ability to version assets. This is especially obvious with the Murano assets which have some version/release dependencies. Ideally an app-catalog user would be able to pick an older version (ie "works with kilo rather than liberty"), but

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