Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][appcat] The future of the App Catalog

2017-03-11 Thread Adam Heczko
Hi Kevin, thanks for bringing this up. Agree that with the current approach to RBAC / ABAC model in OpenStack it is very challenging or nearly impossible to securely do anything more complicated than just manually spawn instance. I'm curious whether TC and/or the community could take constructive a

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][qa][tc][nova][cinder] Testing of a microversioned world

2017-03-11 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 3/10/2017 3:02 PM, Andrea Frittoli wrote: We had a couple of sessions related to this topic at the PTG [0][1]. We agreed that we want to still maintain integration tests only in Tempest, which means that API micro versions that have no integration impact can be tested via functional tests.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][appcat] The future of the App Catalog

2017-03-11 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Nova needs to either: provide a vouching mechanism for VM's to always be able to get something that proves the VM is the VM, or provide a mechanism to securely give the VM a keystone token thats unique to the VM's. Its got to work and be secure through vm's that are stopped or suspended for sign

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][appcat] The future of the App Catalog

2017-03-11 Thread Fox, Kevin M
No, they are treated as second class citizens. Take Trova again as an example. The underlying OpenStack infrastructure does not provide a good security solution for Trove's use case. As its more then just IaaS. So they have spent years trying to work around it on one way or another, each with ho