Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] who wants to own docker bug triage?

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Collins
openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Step_2:_Triage_Tagged_Bugs > > -- > > Thanks, > > Matt Riedemann > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [openstack-dev] How to stage client major releases in Gerrit?

2013-11-22 Thread Robert Collins
On 22 November 2013 22:31, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Robert Collins wrote: >> I don't understand why branches would be needed here *if* the breaking >> changes don't impact any supported release of OpenStack. > > Right -- the trick is what does "supported&quo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tempest] Review request for tempest patches

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Collins
> OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Schduler] Volunteers wanted for a modest proposal for an external scheduler in our lifetime

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Collins
erpad.. I don't see any mention of a step backwards. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Schduler] Volunteers wanted for a modest proposal for an external scheduler in our lifetime

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Collins
t the idea :) Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Easier way of trying TripleO

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Collins
On 22 November 2013 05:55, James Slagle wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Robert Collins >> Right now I think we need to continue the two primary arcs we have: >> CI/CD integration and a CD HA overcloud so that we are being tested, >> and then work on making the

Re: [openstack-dev] How to stage client major releases in Gerrit?

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Collins
the latest python-glanceclient should > work with diablo and it should work with icehouse. Nothing in this > thread breaks that - I just bring it up because it's one of the overall > design points that we'll be rubbing against. I don't understand why branches would be neede

Re: [openstack-dev] How to stage client major releases in Gerrit?

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
periods are finally being cleaned up. Anyone using those features is already getting deprecation warnings... totally fine for that cleanup to be done. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list Op

Re: [openstack-dev] How to stage client major releases in Gerrit?

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
ere a correct way to stage breaking changes in Gerrit? > Has some other team already dealt with this problem? Why not just propose them to Gerrit? Get a set of reviews +2 +2 but not APRV, and once you're satisfied you have everything, approve them then release. -Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
we can expect lockutils to be broken, and rpc to be broken. Clearly they are being impacted more subtly than the neutron client usage. -Rob On 21 November 2013 07:44, Robert Collins wrote: > Which of these bugs would be appropriate to use for the fix to > strong_store - it affects lockutils

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
nstack.org/show/53686/ >> >> -- >> Russell Bryant >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
t;> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >

Re: [openstack-dev] OFF TOPIC Re: Image without host-id

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
reaks the thread and makes it look like the original off topic post has not been replied to. Which will lead to multiple replies saying the same thing. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
e how ancient a libvirt we should support > for it. Fantastic!!! The Ubuntu cloud archive https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive is how OpenStack is delivered by Canonical for Ubuntu LTS users. So I think you can go with e.g. 0.9.11 or even 0.9.12 depending on what the Suse folk say. -R

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
efinitely at this point - they serve overlapping but differing audiences. We should be testing both. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Easier way of trying TripleO

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
e we ran our own jenkins with such downloadable images. Right now I think we need to continue the two primary arcs we have: CI/CD integration and a CD HA overcloud so that we are being tested, and then work on making the artifacts from those tests available. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
e > time. As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think is pretty core and we have no native replacement [configdrive is not a replacement :P]. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Initial Core Reviewers

2013-11-14 Thread Robert Collins
On 15 November 2013 10:53, Adrian Otto wrote: > > > Adrian Otto (adrian_otto) - Solum PTL (Principal Architect, Rackspace) > Monty Taylor (mordred) - OpenStack Technical Committee, OpenStack Board of > Directors (Distinguished Technologist, HP) > Robert Collins (lifel

Re: [openstack-dev] [reviews] putting numbers on -core team load

2013-11-14 Thread Robert Collins
gt; shared culture creates. There is a lot of magic smoke in that box. Could > there be improvements, absolutely, and the most inner folks in Nova talk > about this all the time, trying to come up with new models. But I really > don't think this is a fix-it-with-math problem. I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [reviews] putting numbers on -core team load

2013-11-14 Thread Robert Collins
On 15 November 2013 03:03, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 08:29:36PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: >> One confounding factor here is that this counts (AIUI) pushed changes, >> not change ids - so we don't need two +2's for every push, we need two &

[openstack-dev] [reviews] putting numbers on -core team load

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
ches to learn what other reviewers say, and why - until the nova-core team & Russell are happy that they can contribute effectively as -core. Why such a big number of volunteers? Because we need a big number of people to spread load, because Nova has a high incoming patch rate. Cheers, Ro

Re: [openstack-dev] [style] () vs \ continuations

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
file_name) > > Or something similar. And thus my point is made :> -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] libvirt_type Doc Bug

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
ypervisor_type > > Isn't this kind of confusing for users though? My admin told me the > cluster was kvm, but when I ask nova I get qemu? > > Michael > > -- > Rackspace Australia > > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing lis

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate Math or why you you keep typing 'recheck'

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
n engineering tradeoff... I think we can do better :) - I'd like to see us start running 5 or 10 duplicate scenarios to set a lower bound on flakey tests that can enter the system /at all/, and to look for and back out changes that introduce more subtle flakey bugs. -Rob -- Robert Collin

Re: [openstack-dev] [style] () vs \ continuations

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
ot;, line 1 (foo, bar, baz = ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal to recognize indirect contributions to our code base

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
the bugfix/feature and the vendor can sell more of their product. And again, if being part of the OpenStack community is core to their plans, they will be doing that! So - there are intrinsic motivators for doing this work. Do we need to track the (I suspect) small fraction o

Re: [openstack-dev] [style] () vs \ continuations

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
what I'm doing. I've been told that much of our style guide was copied lock stock and barrel from some Google Python style guide, so I can't tell what is consensus and what is 'what someone copied down one day'. Particularly when there is no rationale included against the p

[openstack-dev] [style] () vs \ continuations

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
sk_extents = ( self._path_file_exists(ds_browser, folder_path, file_name)) Which is IMO harder to read - double brackets, but no function call, and no tuple: it's more ambiguous than \. from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48544/15/nova/virt/vmwareapi/vmops.py Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Baremetal]: pxe image on hard disk

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
s hard disk? > Thanks, > -vj > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud _

Re: [openstack-dev] disable/enable services and agent tests

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Collins
gt; OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: reverse the default Gerrit sort order

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Collins
On 11 November 2013 17:06, Clark Boylan wrote: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Robert Collins > They are sorted on the reverse of the default sort order (which is Sadly not. The default sort order shows most-recently-updated first, which is a field which changes on new push, on comment

[openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] meeting minutes

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Collins
-- http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-11-12-19.00.html -- http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-11-12-19.00.log.html Cheers, rob Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] New plug-ins requirements

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Collins
on level at minimum'. This leaves room for gate based testing of such plugins too, if the vendor steps up and meets the requirements to have their plugin be gate checked - which is superior to merely doing verification checks. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Conve

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: reverse the default Gerrit sort order

2013-11-10 Thread Robert Collins
t by last-comment or last-push - the reviewable by me section includes all nova open reviews (as I watch it) - the reviewed by me section is also a 100 or so long -> useless. I would like to review things I previously reviewed first, but re-reading > 100 reviews to manually detect

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: reverse the default Gerrit sort order

2013-11-10 Thread Robert Collins
hing we should try :) -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Contributing hardware to the TripleO CD cloud

2013-11-07 Thread Robert Collins
eriod : 20 patches landing per hour, but re-tests when things failed in the gate means more like 40 runs per hour, 2 machines per run, an hour budget for bare metal deployed runs. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Bad review patterns

2013-11-07 Thread Robert Collins
kflow and the ReviewWorkflowTips page above overlap a lot. I think we should merge ReviewWorkflowTips into Gerrit_Workflow, and link to the review checklist and guidlines pages from Gerrit_Workflow. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] Bad review patterns

2013-11-07 Thread Robert Collins
on with a live human would you have no feedback at all, if they were reading a speech to you. You might go 'that was a great speech' (+2) and *still* have something to add. As an observer given a very long speech, and an audience, I'd suspect folk went to sleep if they didn't

[openstack-dev] RFC: reverse the default Gerrit sort order

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Collins
; : I specifically want to see what the effect on changing the Gerrit web UI is, because my sense is that that is the default place folk do reviews, and I want to change the default-experience folk have, not the optional experience folk can opt into. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished T

Re: [openstack-dev] Bad review patterns

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Collins
whatever the issue is fixed. It's very much not OK to spend an hour reviewing something and then +1 with no comment: if I, and I think any +2er across the project see a patch that needs an hour of review, with a commentless +1, we'll likely discount the +1 as being meaningful. -

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Releases of this week

2013-11-05 Thread Robert Collins
7;t had new commits > since the last release > > This also means that: > 1. We are now releasing all the projects we have. > 2. *tuskar* projects have got PyPi entries. > > Last but not least. > > I'd like to say a big thank you to Chris Jones who taught me '

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-11-03 Thread Robert Collins
sier/better/possible with this thing implemented? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: [Openstack-Dev] Announcement of the Compass Deployment project

2013-11-01 Thread Robert Collins
e sure we can connect and see where we can collaborate! Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] A question about atomicity of repository commits

2013-10-31 Thread Robert Collins
the test handle both behaviours, land the new change, make the test only handle the new behaviour. > Thanks and kind regards, > > Dave > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-dev][Nova][Discussion]Blueprint : Auto VM Discovery in OpenStack for existing workload

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
way that the controller thinks the VM does not exist but the hypervisor is > still reserving some resources for that VM. If Nova had a way to check its > facts against the hypervisors, confusion would not have to reign. In nova.conf, set: running_deleted_instance_action=reap :) Cheers, Rob

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Separation of concerns for 0.1 git deploy blueprint

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
lum/FeatureBlueprints/GitIntegration#Flow_Boundaries >> >> >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/op

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Version numbering of TripleO releases

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
ntic meaning at all there'. Roman and I discussed this and we think that treating 0. versions as 0.MAJOR.MINOR makes sense. So we would go from 0.0.X to 0.1.0 when we do something incompatible with the prior 0.0.X version, and just increment X otherwise. Thoughts? -Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] How to skip certain unit tests?

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
ests.sh cinder.tests.test_volumes' or more granular: > 'run_tests.sh > cinder.tests.test_volume:VolumeTestCase.test_create_delete_volume For any project that has switched to testr, it should be simple - pass -- in. e.g. run_tests.sh -- (?!testnametoskip) Cheers, Rob

[openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
patch landed - but then I'd expect reviewers to not ask for tests or to volunteer that they might be optional. Now, if I'm wrong, and folk have different norms about when to accept 'reason X not to write tests' as a response from the submitter - please let me know! -Rob --

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
functional and integration tests run with ZK. Unit tests shouldn't be talking to a live ZK anyhow, so they don't concern me. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list Op

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
to recall Zookeeper really not being suitable for secure environments, but maybe thats just how it was used in my previous interactions with it? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing lis

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] TripleO core reviewer update - november

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
The one review a day thing I derive thusly: - reading a single patch a day is a low commitment to ask for - if you don't have time to do that, you will get stale quickly - you'll only see about 20% of the code changes going on (we're doing about 5 commits a day an

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Collins
gh to follow the style (80 char limit, spacing between functions, > between classes etc.) And we provide several ways for a user to run the full > set of style tests locally. Documentation isn't the same as helping. Yes, it's true that the modeline isn't sufficient, but it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Collins
not have been clear. That was absolutely my intent. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] summit overlap

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
Thanks! -Rob On 29 October 2013 11:16, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 10/28/2013 05:40 PM, Robert Collins wrote: >> Hey Russell, any chance you can shuffle the two tuesday nova sessions >> on scheduler - 1450 and 1640 - to another day? Both of those are >> pretty relevant to t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
roblems by a) identifying bad ideas up front, b) vetting the approach via high level walk throughs with experienced reviewers in the project and c) forming consensus amongst the -core reviews about the upcoming work. So - to me - we should focus on the size of the change, not the nature of the change,

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] summit overlap

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
Thanks! -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Please create and list etherpads for summit sessions

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
7;re all on Tuesday - and please note we have multiple sessions in each slot, so be sure to read the full detailed description to see if your session is there. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev m

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
change I'm talking about should be an extension, off by default, so that it's easier to sunset it when Cinder local provider comes about? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenSta

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
that help with better > expression of dependencies among components and resources, and in-turn > enable cross-vm coordination. We have captured our thoughts on this on the > following Wiki page -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
well about the significance of test pass/fail'. > Also, there will be a design session on Cinder for Ironic local storage: > http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/350 Cool. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
which cloud-init and other tools already know how to locate and use. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-27 Thread Robert Collins
etched out code change - are sought! Thanks, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [stackalytics] Official Programs tag?

2013-10-27 Thread Robert Collins
A / Devstack trees > (+ maybe Tripleo? I don't remember if that's Official or Incubated program > at this point). TripleO is official NB: Incubation happens to projects, not programs. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud __

[openstack-dev] consolidating .mailmap?

2013-10-26 Thread Robert Collins
So nova has a massive .mailmap that maps multiple addresses for one person together. I'm wondering if a) it's still needed, and b) if it is, should we push it into all the repositories - e.g. have a single global copy and an automated job to push updates around. -Rob -- Robe

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-25 Thread Robert Collins
On 26 October 2013 08:40, Dolph Mathews wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Robert Collins > wrote: >> >> >> *) They help casual contributors *more* than long time core >> contributors : and those are the folk that are most likely to give up >> a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] Savanna on Bare Metal and Base Requirements

2013-10-25 Thread Robert Collins
On 26 October 2013 02:30, Monty Taylor wrote: > Absolutely works with qcow2 images. We should start a conversation about > savana and diskimage-builder too, btw. Savanna. Also it already uses diskimage-builder :) -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-25 Thread Robert Collins
l fail when you OOM :). You could do a dict with instance -> thread for deletes instead, without creating lots of queues. > I'm tending towards ii) as a simple and pragmatic solution in the near term, > although I like both iii) and iv) as being both generally good enhancments - > b

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Nominating Lucas Gomes to ironic core

2013-10-25 Thread Robert Collins
to do more Ironic reviews. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 25 October 2013 10:04, Chris Behrens wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > >> -2 to 10 minute downtimes. >> >> +1 to doing the evolution gracefully. There is a spec for doing that >> from the H summit; someone just needs to implement

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
using a periodic task to copy data to > the new columns, and then dropping the old. That's a lot more > complicated to implement though. > > -- > Rackspace Australia > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
Kanban experiment - things that aren't in the project current roadmap don't get unlimited resources; some things are declined, and things in the roadmap everyone in the team comes together to ensure a timely, effective delivery. The difference is that we're operating with a deliberate

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
to enforce a specific modeline per file type, avoiding accidental mistakes. *) Possibly we can move the copyright licence grants to the end of the files as well, making opening our source code up much more pleasant. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud _

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-23 Thread Robert Collins
he infrastructure (rather than a user asking for something stupid). I think my concern and yours can both be handled at the same time. -Rob --- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] excessively difficult to support both iso8601 0.1.4 and 0.1.8 as deps

2013-10-23 Thread Robert Collins
ed" to make identifying this situation easy. The last thing a new / upgraded deployment wants is something like nova, or a third party API script failing in nonobvious ways with no breadcrumbs to lead them to 'upgrade iso8601' as an answer. -Rob -- Robert Collins Di

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-23 Thread Robert Collins
Huh, I did not see that go by. Python already has built in signalling for deprecated features; I think we should be using that. We can of course wrap it with a little sugar to make it easy to encode future deprecations. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud _

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] meeting minutes

2013-10-22 Thread Robert Collins
> Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-22-19.01.txt 09:01 <@openstack> Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-22-19.01.log.html Thanks everyone for coming. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technol

[openstack-dev] [reviewstats] approved patches no longer count towards open reviews

2013-10-22 Thread Robert Collins
is a real dependency, the dependency status will reflect appropriately (how long it's been open, has it got reviews etc). Anyhow, this is just a) thanks Russell! and b) a headsup if you notice an old review but your stats are better - this is why - approved reviews are not 'open'.

Re: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in all OpenStack projects (and [trove] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2013-10-22 Thread Robert Collins
stribution license granted by the copyright holders -or- a statement from the copyright holders that it is in the public domain'. As long as all the claimed copyright holders are claiming the same license, there is nothing more needed for either Debian or

Re: [openstack-dev] question regarding vmdk file format for baremetal provisioning

2013-10-21 Thread Robert Collins
elp/pointers. > Thanks > Ravi > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud _

Re: [openstack-dev] question regarding disk image builder

2013-10-21 Thread Robert Collins
l don't have dhcp > enabled. I see this in the BM node's console when cloud-init starts. > > > > How can I troubleshoot this? > > Thanks > Ravi > > > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-

Re: [openstack-dev] Announce of Rally - benchmarking system for OpenStack

2013-10-20 Thread Robert Collins
ring thing, and if Tempest isn't capable of generating enough concurrency/load [for a single test - ignore parallel execution of different tests] then that seems like something we should fix in Tempest, because concurrency/race conditions are things we need tests for in devs

Re: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in all OpenStack projects (and [trove] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2013-10-20 Thread Robert Collins
ht holders and copyright license. Personally, I think it should really only be a concordance of copyright licenses, and the holders shouldn't be mentioned, but thats not the current project view. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in all OpenStack projects (and [trove] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2013-10-20 Thread Robert Collins
he first patch to a repository is probably a sustainable overhead. And it's probably amenable to automation - a commit hook could do it locally and a check job can assert that it's done. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud __

Re: [openstack-dev] Setting host routes in a subnet on Neutron

2013-10-18 Thread Robert Collins
stination CIDR for a host route to > 0.0.0.0/0. If I understand correctly, this would set a host route for > 0.0.0.0, effectively changing the default gateway for the system. > However, a default gateway is *already* defined for the subnet, via the > "

Re: [openstack-dev] Building on Debian: Havana unit tests at build time report

2013-10-17 Thread Robert Collins
quirements still lists SQLAlchemy>=0.7.8,<=0.7.99 So you'll need an older version. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Python-coverage: path change from /usr/bin/coverage to /usr/bin/python-coverage

2013-10-16 Thread Robert Collins
this is a major pain. > > Your thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.o

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-16 Thread Robert Collins
enStack, that review is a shared workload shared by all the contributors. We all need to do this, otherwise we end up with asymmetric review load and thats what leads to the current situation with a huge fraction of reviews being done by a tiny fraction of the reviewers. -Rob -- Robert Col

Re: [openstack-dev] [novaclient]should administrator can see all servers of all tenants by default?

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Collins
ou see that causing any problems for non trivial > clouds? > > Chris > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Robert Collins > wrote: >> >> Please don't invert the bug though: if --all-tenants becomes the >> default nova server behaviour in v3, please ensu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] stabilizing internal APIs

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Collins
orth committing a whole session to. Maybe > piggy-back this one onto another session already proposed? Maybe this > should be a broader-than-keystone-only topic? > --Morgan > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.o

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Retrospective up

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Collins
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/TripleOCloud/MVP1and2Retrospective If you're a TripleO contributor, please take the time to eyeball it - thanks! -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev ma

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Reviews: tweaking priorities, and continual-deployment approvals

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Collins
might try it locally, or even monkey patch it onto the cloud for one run to check it really works [until we have gating on the CD story/ies]. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Bug triage for TripleO - all ATC's please read.

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Collins
we do wrong are both defects; except for regressions the priority of the work is not affect by whether we've delivered the the thing or not, and using wishlist just serves to flatten all the priority of all unimplemented things into one bucket: not helpful. - we use triaged, not just '

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting Minutes

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Collins
e and responsibility lost by the same criteria as all other reviewers Of course, if this has been tried, fine - but AFAICT 'contribute equally' hasn't been tried yet. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [novaclient]should administrator can see all servers of all tenants by default?

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Collins
ts.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > > -- > > Lingxian Kong > Huawei Technologies Co.,LTD. > IT Product Line CloudOS PDU > China, Xi'an > Mobile: +86-18602962792 > Email: konglingx...@huawei.com; anlin.k...@gmail.com > >

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] CD Cloud MVP2 completed

2013-10-14 Thread Robert Collins
o-image-updates - see 'Rebuild:' in there. https://trello.com/b/0jIoMrdo/tripleo has the cards as expected... -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] UpgradeImpact commit message tag

2013-10-14 Thread Robert Collins
st > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] baremetal nova boot issue

2013-10-13 Thread Robert Collins
glance, writing them to tftp tthen powering on the machine. > I see that using any of the diskbuilder built images (ramdisk kernel) is not > booting up the system. Can you give some more detail about what happens? -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___

Re: [openstack-dev] baremetal nova boot issue

2013-10-12 Thread Robert Collins
gt;>>>> command: >>>>>> = >>>>>> root@os:/home/versa# nova boot --flavor 6 --image >>>>>> 39f4fd3b-15cc-4810-a808-e2c4764ba657 bm >>>>>> ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the >>>>>> requested operation. (HTTP 5

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] All TripleO ATC's - getting accounts on the TripleOCloud

2013-10-12 Thread Robert Collins
ld on top of review 51354 (e.g. git review -d 51354, add a commit, git review -y). -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cg

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