Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-04 Thread Igor Marnat
Dmitry, Aleksandra, thank you for help and support! Regards, Igor Marnat On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > As we agreed, we have switched ISO builds to latest CentOS 7.2 snapshots. > > You can see now that each ISO build (see for ex. [1]) produces several > *_id.txt a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-03 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
As we agreed, we have switched ISO builds to latest CentOS 7.2 snapshots. You can see now that each ISO build (see for ex. [1]) produces several *_id.txt artifacts. Note that centos_mirror_id.txt points to CentOS snapshot at http://mirror.fuel-infra.org/pkgs/ BVT test is stable, see [2], and nigh

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
Thanks for the detailed explanation, very helpful! Considering that this change is atomic and easily revertable, lets proceed with the change, the sooner we do that the more time we'll have to confirm that there is no impact and revert if necessary. -- Dmitry Borodaenko On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Hi, let me add some details about the change: 1) There are two repositories used to build Fuel ISO: base OS repository [1], and mos repository [2], where we put Fuel dependencies and packages we rebuild due to certain version requirements. The CentOS 7.2 feature is related to the upstream repo o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Mike Scherbakov
It is not just about BVT. I'd suggest to monitor situation overall, including failures of system tests [1]. If we see regressions there, or some test cases will start flapping (what is even worse), then we'd have to revert back to CentOS 7.1. [1] https://github.com/openstack/fuel-qa On Wed, Mar 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
I agree with Mike's concerns, and propose to make these limitations (4 weeks before FF for OS upgrades, 2 weeks for upgrades of key dependencies -- RabbitMQ, MCollective, Puppet, MySQL, PostgreSQL, anything else?) official for 10.0/Newton. For 9.0/Mitaka, it is too late to impose them, so we just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Formally, we can merge it today. Historically, every update of OS caused us instability for some time: from days to a couple of month. Taking this into account and number of other exceptions requested, overall stability of code, my opinion would be to postpone this to 10.0. Also, I'd suggest to ch

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Igor Marnat
Igor, couple of points from my side. CentOS 7.2 will be getting updates for several more months, and we have snapshots and all the mechanics in place to switch to the next version when needed. Speaking of getting this update into 9.0, we actually don't need FFE, we can merge remaining staff today

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Dmitry Teselkin
Igor, Your statement about updates for 7.2 isn't correct - it will receive updates, because it's the latest release ATM. There is *no* pinning inside ISO, and the only place where it was 8.0 were docker containers just because we had to workaround some issues. But there are no docker containers i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Dmitry, Igor, > Very important thing is that CentOS 7.1 which master node is based now > don't get updates any longer. If you are using "fixed" release you must be ready that you won't get any updates. So with CentOS 7.2 the problem still the same. However, let's wait for Fuel PTL decision. I on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Igor Marnat
Igor, please note that this is pretty much not like update of master node which we had in 8.0. This is minor _update_ of CentOS from 7.1 to 7.2 which team tested for more than 2 months already. We don't expect it to require any additional efforts from core or qa team. Very important thing is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Dmitry Teselkin
Hi Igor, Postponing this till Fuel 10 means we have to elaborate a plan to do such upgrade for Fuel 9 after the release - the underlying system will not get updated on it's own, and the security issues will not close themselves. The problem here is that such upgrade of deployed master node require

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-03-02 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Hey Dmitry, No offence, but I rather against that exception. We have too many things to do in Mitaka, and moving to CentOS 7.2 means * extra effort from core team * extra effort from qa team Moreover, it might block development by introducing unpredictable regressions. Remember 8.0? So I think i

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Feature Freeze Exception Request - switching to CentOS-7.2

2016-02-29 Thread Dmitry Teselkin
I'd like to ask for a feature freeze exception for switching to CentOS-7.2 feature [0]. CentOS-7.2 ISO's have been tested periodically since the beginning of the year, and all major issues were addressed / fixed at the moment. During the last weekend I've made 70 BVT runs to verify that the solut