[openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Hi all, tl;dr; At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd like this to be discussed more openly and for us (the Ironic dev communi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-06-12 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:55:50PM -0700, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > [snip] > > I also put an informational spec about this change up in the > ironic-specs repo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185171/. My goal was > to discuss this in the spec, but the mailing list is fine too. There are > some un

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/28/2015 12:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > Hi all, > > tl;dr; > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. > I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd > li

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread John Dickinson
> On May 28, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 05/28/2015 12:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> tl;dr; >> >> At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with >> the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. >> I had a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:54:58PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 05/28/2015 12:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > tl;dr; > > > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > > the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Devananda van der Veen < devananda@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > tl;dr; > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. > I had a brief follow-up conversation

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Thursday, May 28, 2015, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > Hi all, > > tl;dr; > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. > I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, tl;dr; At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd like this to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Hi > Note, that will need some scheduling anyway, so that we can slow down a week > before. So probably still some milestone process required, wdyt? > We can cut a release and establish it one or two weeks before the official OpenStack release. But prior to that we can just cut a release whenever

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: >>> - OpenStack coordinated releases are taken from latest independent release >>> - that release will then get backports & stable maintenance, other >>> independent releases don't >> >> So no stable branch for other independent releases? What if serious security >> issue

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Devananda van der Veen wrote: > [...] > The alternative we discussed: > - use feature branches for risky / large work, keeping total # of > branches small, and rebasing them regularly on master > - keep trunk moving quickly for smaller / less risky / refactoring changes > - "slow down" for a week o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 11:47:36 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] > As far as vulnerability management goes, we already publish the > "master" fix as part of the advisory, so people can easily find > that. The only thing the VMT might want to reconsider is: when an > issue is /only/ present in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > Hi all, > > tl;dr; > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. > I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd > li

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-05-29 12:12:51 +0200: > Devananda van der Veen wrote: > > [...] > > The alternative we discussed: > > - use feature branches for risky / large work, keeping total # of > > branches small, and rebasing them regularly on master > > - keep trunk moving qu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Brant Knudson
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > tl;dr; > > > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > > the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. > > I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-05-29 15:11:25 +0200: > On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > tl;dr; > > > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > > the current release model and came up with some ideas to addre

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-06-01 Thread Ruby Loo
On 28 May 2015 at 15:55, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > ... > I also put an informational spec about this change up in the > ironic-specs repo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185171/. My goal was > to discuss this in the spec, but the mailing list is fine too. There are > some unanswered questions in