Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-12-02 Thread Adam Young
On 11/29/2013 10:06 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey Anyone got an update on this? The keystone blueprint for KDS was marked approved on Tuesday: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/key-distribution-server and a new keystone review was added on Sunday, but it must be a draft sinc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-12-01 Thread Jarret Raim
> I also don't like that the discussions suggested that because it would be hard > to get Barbican incubated/integrated it should not be used. That is just crazy > talk. TripleO merged with Tuskar because Tuskar is part of deployment. We are completing our incubation request for Barbican right now

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-11-25 20:25:50 -0800: > Back in the Day, Barbican was just one Service of Cloud Keep. While I > would say that KDS belongs in the Cloud Keep, it is not the same as, and > should not be deployed with Barbican. Is it possible to keep them as > separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-29 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey Anyone got an update on this? The keystone blueprint for KDS was marked approved on Tuesday: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/key-distribution-server and a new keystone review was added on Sunday, but it must be a draft since I can't access it: https://review.openstack.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-26 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Adam Young wrote: > Back in the Day, Barbican was just one Service of Cloud Keep. While I > would say that KDS belongs in the Cloud Keep, it is not the same as, and > should not be deployed with Barbican. Is it possible to keep them as > separate services? I th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-25 Thread Adam Young
[thie...@openstack.org] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 4:17 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging Adam Young wrote: Keep KDS configuration separate from the Keystone configuration: the fact that

[openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-25 Thread John Wood
bject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging Adam Young wrote: > Keep KDS configuration separate from the Keystone configuration: the > fact that they both point to the same host and port is temporary. In > fact, we should probably spin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Adam Young wrote: > Keep KDS configuration separate from the Keystone configuration: the > fact that they both point to the same host and port is temporary. In > fact, we should probably spin up a separate wsgi service/port inside > Keystone for just the KDS. This is not hard to do, and will supp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-24 Thread Dean Troyer
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > The other concern is the library interfacing with KDS (I would assume this > goes into keystoneclient? At least for the time being). > I would rather see the client get its own repo, too. We still need to do that with the middleware. dt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-24 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> I hear a concerted effort to get this bootstrapped in Keystone. We can do > this if it is the voice of the majority. > > > If we do: > > Keep KDS configuration separate from the Keystone configuration: the fact > that they both point to the same host and port is temporary. In fact, we > should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-23 Thread Adam Young
On 11/22/2013 01:49 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 11:04 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: [...] I'm not thrilled about the prospect of this going into a new project for multiple reasons. - Given the priority and how long this has been dragging out, having

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 11:04 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Russell Bryant wrote: > > [...] > > I'm not thrilled about the prospect of this going into a new project for > > multiple reasons. > > > > - Given the priority and how long this has been dragging out, having to > > wait for a new project

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-22 Thread Jarret Raim
On 11/21/13, 7:51 PM, "Jamie Lennox" wrote: >So i've a feeling that this was proposed and dismissed once before. I >don't remember why. > >So my concern with barbican is that i'm under the impression that >barbican was going to be an 'overcloud' service. That's a really bad way >of putting it, b

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: > [...] > I'm not thrilled about the prospect of this going into a new project for > multiple reasons. > > - Given the priority and how long this has been dragging out, having to > wait for a new project to make its way into OpenStack is not very appealing. > > - A new pro

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-21 Thread Jamie Lennox
So i've a feeling that this was proposed and dismissed once before. I don't remember why. So my concern with barbican is that i'm under the impression that barbican was going to be an 'overcloud' service. That's a really bad way of putting it, but it is service and user facing and discovered via t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-21 Thread Adam Young
On 11/21/2013 03:08 PM, Jarret Raim wrote: The Barbican team has been taking a look at the KDS feature and the proposed patch and I think this may be better placed in Barbican rather than Keystone. The patch, from what I can tell, seems to require that a service account create & use a key under i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-21 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Jarret Raim wrote: > The Barbican team has been taking a look at the KDS feature and the > proposed patch and I think this may be better placed in Barbican rather > than Keystone. The patch, from what I can tell, seems to require that a > service account create & u

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-21 Thread Jarret Raim
The Barbican team has been taking a look at the KDS feature and the proposed patch and I think this may be better placed in Barbican rather than Keystone. The patch, from what I can tell, seems to require that a service account create & use a key under its own tenant. In this use case, Barbican can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-21 Thread Adam Young
On 11/21/2013 01:55 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, I'd like to check in on the status of this API addition: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40692/ The last comment is: "propose against stackforge as discussed at summit?" Yes, it was discussed in a small group, and not offici

[openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-20 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, I'd like to check in on the status of this API addition: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40692/ The last comment is: "propose against stackforge as discussed at summit?" I don't see a session about this and from a quick look, don't see notes related to it in other session et