Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-05 Thread Jay Lau
Thanks Eric, I see. Yes, this can make sure the user would not need to contact the server using bay-show/baymode-show to get UUID of bay/baymodel, but Magnum need to be updated to make the bay/baymodel uuid generate logic. 2015-06-05 13:42 GMT+08:00 Eric Windisch e...@windisch.us: I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-04 Thread Jay Lau
it is different on every cloud. Thanks, Kevin -- *From:* Jay Lau [jay.lau@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:33 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-04 Thread Adrian Otto
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Thanks Adrian, imho making name as required can bring more convenient to end users because UUID is difficult

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Windisch
I think this is perfectly fine, as long as it's reasonably large and the algorithm is sufficiently intelligent. The UUID algorithm is good at this, for instance, although it fails at readability. Docker's is not terribly great and could be limiting if you were looking to run several

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-04 Thread Jay Lau
*To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Thanks Adrian, imho making name as required can bring more convenient to end users because UUID is difficult

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-03 Thread Jay Lau
Some comments and questions in line. Thanks. 2015-06-03 11:27 GMT+08:00 Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com: Eric, On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Eric Windisch e...@windisch.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: I have reflected on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-03 Thread Jay Lau
-- *From:* Jay Lau [jay.lau@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:33 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Thanks Adrian, imho making

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-03 Thread Adrian Otto
questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Thanks Adrian, imho making name as required can bring more convenient to end users because UUID is difficult to use. Without name, the end user need to retrieve the UUID

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Jay Lau
Thanks Adrian, imho making name as required can bring more convenient to end users because UUID is difficult to use. Without name, the end user need to retrieve the UUID of the bay/baymodel first before he did some operations for the bay/baymodel, its really time consuming. We can discuss more in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Adrian Otto
Eric, On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Eric Windisch e...@windisch.usmailto:e...@windisch.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.commailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: I have reflected on this further and offer this suggestion: 1) Add a feature to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Jay Lau
: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Thanks Adrian, imho making name as required can bring more convenient to end users because UUID is difficult to use. Without name, the end user need to retrieve the UUID of the bay

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Eric Windisch
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: I have reflected on this further and offer this suggestion: 1) Add a feature to Magnum to auto-generate human readable names, like Docker does for un-named containers, and ElasticSearch does for naming cluster

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Adrian Otto
Lau [jay.lau@gmail.commailto:jay.lau@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:33 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Thanks Adrian, imho

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
at 6:11 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel +1 about Jay option. BTW

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2015 at 11:08 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Fox, Kevin M
that with a UUID since it is different on every cloud. Thanks, Kevin From: Jay Lau [jay.lau@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:33 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Fox, Kevin M
: Steven Dake (stdake) [std...@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 4:52 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Kennan, Agree on no requirement

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-02 Thread Adrian Otto
-1. I disagree. I am not convinced that requiring names is a good idea. I've asked several times why there is a desire to require names, and I'm not seeing any persuasive arguments that are not already addressed by UUIDs. We have UUID values to allow for acting upon an individual resource.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-01 Thread Jay Lau
2015-06-01 21:54 GMT+08:00 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com: On 05/31/2015 05:38 PM, Jay Lau wrote: Just want to use ML to trigger more discussion here. There are now bugs/patches tracing this, but seems more discussions are needed before we come to a conclusion.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-01 Thread Jay Pipes
On 05/31/2015 05:38 PM, Jay Lau wrote: Just want to use ML to trigger more discussion here. There are now bugs/patches tracing this, but seems more discussions are needed before we come to a conclusion. https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1453732 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181839/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-06-01 Thread Kai Qiang Wu
Follow your heart. You are miracle! From: Jay Lau jay.lau@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 06/01/2015 11:17 PM Subject:Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-05-31 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Just want to use ML to trigger more discussion here. There are now bugs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-05-31 Thread Davanum Srinivas
: Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 2:38 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Just want to use ML to trigger more discussion here. There are now bugs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-05-31 Thread Haiwei Xu
-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 2:38 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel Just want to use ML to trigger more

[openstack-dev] [Magnum] Does Bay/Baymodel name should be a required option when creating a Bay/Baymodel

2015-05-31 Thread Jay Lau
Just want to use ML to trigger more discussion here. There are now bugs/patches tracing this, but seems more discussions are needed before we come to a conclusion. https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1453732 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181839/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181837/