Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-17 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/16/2014 08:55 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: pub/sub doesn't necessarily guarantees messages delivery, it really depends on the implementation. As I understand it, the model for pub-sub in Zaqar is to have multiple subscribers polling the queue with gets, and have the messages removed from t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/15/2014 09:33 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 12:05:09 -0700: >> On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: >>> Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Thierr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 12:05:09 -0700: > On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: > >> On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -070

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: > On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: > >> Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: > Is Zaq

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: >> Clint Byrum wrote: >>> Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: Is Zaqar being optimized as a *queuing* service? I'd say no. Our goal is to opti

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-09-12 03:27:42 -0700: > On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Flavio Percoco wrote: > > > [...] > > > Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: > > > > > > - Do we need a messaging service with a f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: > Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: > >> Is Zaqar being optimized as a *queuing* service? I'd say no. Our goal is > >> to optimize Zaqar for delivering messages and support

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Victoria Martínez de la Cruz
2014-09-12 10:44 GMT-03:00 Gordon Sim : > On 09/11/2014 07:46 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > >> On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: >> >>> On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: >>> Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/11/2014 07:46 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to communicate with guest agents that run in the "over-cloud" layer.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Flavio Percoco wrote: > > [...] > > Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: > > > > - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set akin to SQS+SNS? > > [...] > > I think we do need, as Samuel puts it,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: >> Is Zaqar being optimized as a *queuing* service? I'd say no. Our goal is >> to optimize Zaqar for delivering messages and supporting different >> messaging patterns. > > Awesome! Just please don't expect p

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: > On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > > On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable > >> message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic application buil

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable >> message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic application building >> block. Some claim it's THE basic application building block, more use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: >> To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's >> written in the project's overview section[0]: >> >> "Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web developers. > > H

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/10/2014 07:29 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to communicate with guest agents that run in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: > On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > > To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's > > written in the project's overview section[0]: > > > > "Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic application building block. Some claim it's THE basic application building block, more useful than database provisioning. It's definitely a l

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's written in the project's overview section[0]: "Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web developers. How are different tenants isolated from each other? C

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Flavio Percoco wrote: > [...] > Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: > > - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set akin to SQS+SNS? > [...] I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic ap

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/09/2014 09:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: >> Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During >>> the meeting some concerns arose. I've li