[openstack-dev] [all] [oslo] Suggestion to change verbose=false to true in oslo.log by default

2015-07-27 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
Hi all! I didn't find the discussion on the ML so I feel like starting one. What was the reason of setting verbose to false by default? The patch [1] does not provide any reasoning for it. We all know that software does fail from time to time. While the default level of WARN might give some s

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [oslo] Suggestion to change verbose=false to true in oslo.log by default

2015-08-03 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 7/28/2015 4:28 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: On 07/27/2015 02:11 PM, Sean Dague wrote: Honestly, I think deprecating and removing 'verbose' is probably the best option. INFO is probably the right default behavior, and it's not really "verbose" in any real openstack usage. It is unlikely that an

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [oslo] Suggestion to change verbose=false to true in oslo.log by default

2015-07-27 Thread Sean Dague
Honestly, I think deprecating and removing 'verbose' is probably the best option. INFO is probably the right default behavior, and it's not really "verbose" in any real openstack usage. It is unlikely that anyone would want that to be in the off state, and if so, they can do that via python logging

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [oslo] Suggestion to change verbose=false to true in oslo.log by default

2015-07-28 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 07/27/2015 02:11 PM, Sean Dague wrote: Honestly, I think deprecating and removing 'verbose' is probably the best option. INFO is probably the right default behavior, and it's not really "verbose" in any real openstack usage. It is unlikely that anyone would want that to be in the off state, an