Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

+1 james bottomley On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 11:55 PM, James Bottomley < james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 15:38 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 08:48:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > This isn't the first time I'm calling for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 20:48 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, > I'll be heard. > > Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. When > they do, then effectively, this tells that a given source file > copyright

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 15:38 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 08:48:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, > > I'll > > be heard. > > > > Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2016-01-16 22:36:23 -0800: > On 01/16/2016 10:16 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2016-01-16 12:14:20 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > > [...] > >> I've just asked this very point with the same example to the FTP > >> masters. Let's see what they

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 2016-01-17 14:36:23 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > What I wrote is that I feel like the currently situation makes it > very blurry for one to tell who is the copyright holder(s). I'm > seeking a way to fix this. I fail to see what's blurry about it. The contributors who feel

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 2016-01-16 12:12:00 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 01/15/2016 11:26 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2016-01-15 23:09:34 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 01/15/2016 09:57 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > [...] > >>> resulting in the summary at > >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 2016-01-16 11:59:44 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > Though we could ask copyright holders to declare giving it to the > foundation. [...] Please let's move this to the legal-discuss ML. Even if I thought copyright assignment was a good idea (which I don't), I lack sufficient

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 2016-01-16 12:14:20 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > I've just asked this very point with the same example to the FTP > masters. Let's see what they say... Please point them to the archive for this thread. Specifically it would be helpful for them to give _you_ feedback on your

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 01/16/2016 10:16 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2016-01-16 12:14:20 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > [...] >> I've just asked this very point with the same example to the FTP >> masters. Let's see what they say... > > Please point them to the archive for this thread. Specifically it >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote: Whatever we choose, I think we should ban having copyright holding text within our source code. While licensing is a good idea, as it is accurate, the copyright holding information isn't and it's just missleading. I think we should not add new

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

Hi Thomas, good thoughts for a very important topic. I am currently refactoring a lot of code inside of the openstack-chef cookbooks and constantly have to ask myself, if i now have to add any copyright thingy to any file or am even allowed to delete the original copyright in a file after

[openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, I'll be heard. Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. When they do, then effectively, this tells that a given source file copyright holder is whatever is claimed, even though someone from another company

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 2016-01-15 23:09:34 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 01/15/2016 09:57 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...] > > resulting in the summary at > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ#Copyright_Headers for > > those who choose to learn from history rather than repeating it. > > Well,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 2016-01-15 07:31:09 -0600 (-0600), Dolph Mathews wrote: > This is a topic for legal-discuss, not -dev. > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-discuss And not only that, but we've discussed it to death in years gone by (my how short some memories are), resulting in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 01/15/2016 09:57 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2016-01-15 07:31:09 -0600 (-0600), Dolph Mathews wrote: >> This is a topic for legal-discuss, not -dev. >> >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-discuss > > And not only that It is important that everyone writing code

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

> On 15 Jan 2016, at 14:57, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2016-01-15 07:31:09 -0600 (-0600), Dolph Mathews wrote: >> This is a topic for legal-discuss, not -dev. >> >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-discuss > > And not only that, but we've

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

This is a topic for legal-discuss, not -dev. http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-discuss On Friday, January 15, 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote: > This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, I'll > be heard. > > Randomly, contributors

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:53:49PM +, Chris Dent wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > >Whatever we choose, I think we should ban having copyright holding text > >within our source code. While licensing is a good idea, as it is > >accurate, the copyright holding information

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 08:48:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, I'll > be heard. > > Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. When > they do, then effectively, this tells that a given source file

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 01/15/2016 10:28 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:53:49PM +, Chris Dent wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote: Whatever we choose, I think we should ban having copyright holding text within our source code. While licensing is a good idea, as it is

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 01/15/2016 10:38 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 08:48:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, I'll be heard. Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. When they do, then effectively,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 01/15/2016 11:38 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 08:48:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, I'll >> be heard. >> >> Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. When >> they do, then

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

Either 1 or 3. 2 does not solve anything. -Original Message- From: Monty Taylor [mailto:mord...@inaugust.com] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:01 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 01/15/2016 11:26 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2016-01-15 23:09:34 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 01/15/2016 09:57 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > [...] >>> resulting in the summary at >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ#Copyright_Headers for >>> those who choose to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

On 01/15/2016 11:28 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:53:49PM +, Chris Dent wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >>> Whatever we choose, I think we should ban having copyright holding text >>> within our source code. While licensing is a good idea,