Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/16/2015 01:03 PM, Carl Baldwin wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: Instead of just breaking the world, and burning 10s to 100 engineer hours in redo tests and investigating and addressing the break after the fact. We shouldn't let this happen in the first place.

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-17 Thread Robert Collins
On 18 December 2015 at 16:58, Mike Bayer wrote: > > >> Or do you still consider SQLA / Alembic as just a 3rd party lib for >> OpenStack? Wouldn't it be nice to have it maintained directly in >> OpenStack infra? Your thoughts? > > Alembic / SQLAlchemy are completely outside of Openstack and are >

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Bayer
On 12/17/2015 04:00 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 12/16/2015 06:04 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: >> >> >> On 12/16/2015 11:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/16/2015 06:04 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > On 12/16/2015 11:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > > Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écri

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Carl Baldwin wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: I will update on Neutron side of things since it seems I have some knowledge from the fields. So first, on resources: we have Sachi and lifeless from infra side + Ihar and pc_m looking into expanding constrained j

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-17 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: > I will update on Neutron side of things since it seems I have some knowledge > from the fields. > > So first, on resources: we have Sachi and lifeless from infra side + Ihar > and pc_m looking into expanding constrained jobs in Neutron worl

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-12-16 13:59:55 -0700 (-0700), Carl Baldwin wrote: Is someone from Neutron actively helping out here? Need more? [...] I believe all of the jobs currently voting on changes proposed to the master branch of the openstack/neutron repo are using centrally constrain

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-12-16 13:59:55 -0700 (-0700), Carl Baldwin wrote: > Is someone from Neutron actively helping out here? Need more? [...] I believe all of the jobs currently voting on changes proposed to the master branch of the openstack/neutron repo are using centrally constrained requirements (they all

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-12-16 16:50:39 -0500 (-0500), Mike Bayer wrote: [...] > That said, as the upper-constraints system is available, and not using > it means that any upstream package release that breaks any test will > cause 12 hours of gate downtime, I'm surprised that rolling this system > out across the bo

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Mike Bayer
On 12/16/2015 01:32 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2015-12-16 11:03:38 -0700 (-0700), Carl Baldwin wrote: > [...] >> We need to vet new package releases before they wreak havoc. We need >> to accept new package releases by proposing a patch to update the >> version and take it through the gate.

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 12/16/2015 10:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in the 0.8.4 release. This ends up causing a unit test failure (at least in the Nova case) t

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...] > Yes, it's progressing nicely. DevStack-based jobs are already > covered this way for master and stable/liberty, and Neutron is > piloting the same solution for its other non-DevStack-based jobs. If Is someone from Neutron actively he

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Dec 16 2015, Carl Baldwin wrote: > We need to vet new package releases before they wreak havoc. We need > to accept new package releases by proposing a patch to update the > version and take it through the gate. Weren't we working on this at > one point? I understand if it isn't quite p

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Mike, I for one whole heartedly thank you for everything you do including extra nova review in this case. -- dims > On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > >> On 12/16/2015 11:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Joshua Harlow
Carl Baldwin wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: Instead of just breaking the world, and burning 10s to 100 engineer hours in redo tests and investigating and addressing the break after the fact. We shouldn't let this happen in the first place. I think this is our faul

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-12-16 11:03:38 -0700 (-0700), Carl Baldwin wrote: [...] > We need to vet new package releases before they wreak havoc. We need > to accept new package releases by proposing a patch to update the > version and take it through the gate. Weren't we working on this at > one point? I understa

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: >> Instead of just breaking the world, and burning 10s to 100 engineer >> hours in redo tests and investigating and addressing the break after the >> fact. We shouldn't let this happen in the first place. I think this is our fault. We need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 16/12/15 11:53 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Kevin Benton
Yeah. The twisted take-away from this thread is to not test your changes against openstack so you have plausible deniability. :) On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > On 12/16/2015 11:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 12/16/2015 11:

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Mike Bayer
On 12/16/2015 11:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : > oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for a

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Dan Smith
> It was in the queue for 11 days, Dan Smith took a look, he added Jay > Pipes, and I also added Matt Riedemann, there were also a bunch of > neutron folks on it since this fix originated from their end. Yeah, and both of those other people have had serious other commitments in the last two weeks.

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Mike Bayer
On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: >> >> >> On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in the 0.8.4 release. Thi

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/16/2015 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: >> >> >> On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in the 0.8.4 release. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/16/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> >> >> Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : >>> oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in >>> the 0.8.4 release. This ends up causing a unit test failure (at least in >

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Mike Bayer
On 12/16/2015 09:10 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > > Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : >> oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in >> the 0.8.4 release. This ends up causing a unit test failure (at least in >> the Nova case) that looks like this - >> http://l

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 16/12/2015 14:59, Sean Dague a écrit : oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in the 0.8.4 release. This ends up causing a unit test failure (at least in the Nova case) that looks like this - http://logs.openstack.org/44/258444/1/check/gate-nova-python27/2ed0401/

[openstack-dev] [gate] any project using olso.db test_migrations is currently blocked

2015-12-16 Thread Sean Dague
oslo.db test_migrations is using methods for alembic, which changed in the 0.8.4 release. This ends up causing a unit test failure (at least in the Nova case) that looks like this - http://logs.openstack.org/44/258444/1/check/gate-nova-python27/2ed0401/console.html#_2015-12-16_12_20_17_404 There i