[openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-12 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
The process of operators upgrading Python versions across their fleet came up this morning. It's fairly obvious that operators will want to do this in a rolling fashion. Has anyone considered doing this in CI? For example, running multinode grenade with python 2 on one node and python 3 on the oth

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-12 Thread Clark Boylan
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > The process of operators upgrading Python versions across their fleet came > up this morning. It's fairly obvious that operators will want to do this in > a rolling fashion. > > Has anyone considered doing this in CI? For example, running

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Clark Boylan's message of 2018-09-12 10:44:55 -0700: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > > The process of operators upgrading Python versions across their fleet came > > up this morning. It's fairly obvious that operators will want to do this in > > a rolling

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-09-12 12:04:02 -0600: > Excerpts from Clark Boylan's message of 2018-09-12 10:44:55 -0700: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > > > The process of operators upgrading Python versions across their fleet came > > > up this morni

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-12 Thread Chris Friesen
On 9/12/2018 12:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: This came up in a Vancouver summit session (the python3 one I think). General consensus there seemed to be that we should have grenade jobs that run python2 on the old side and python3 on the new side and test the update from one to another through

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2018-09-12 16:52:16 -0600: > On 9/12/2018 12:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > >> This came up in a Vancouver summit session (the python3 one I think). > >> General consensus there seemed to be that we should have grenade jobs that > >> run python2 on the o

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/13/2018 12:52 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 9/12/2018 12:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >>> This came up in a Vancouver summit session (the python3 one I think). >>> General consensus there seemed to be that we should have grenade jobs >>> that run python2 on the old side and python3 on the n

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2018-09-13 12:23:32 +0200: > On 09/13/2018 12:52 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: > > On 9/12/2018 12:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > >>> This came up in a Vancouver summit session (the python3 one I think). > >>> General consensus there seemed to be that we sho

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Ghanshyam Mann
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:10:48 +0900 Doug Hellmann wrote > Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2018-09-13 12:23:32 +0200: > > On 09/13/2018 12:52 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: > > > On 9/12/2018 12:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > >>> This came up in a Vancouver summit se

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-09-12 12:04:02 -0600: > > Excerpts from Clark Boylan's message of 2018-09-12 10:44:55 -0700: > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > > > > The process of operators upgra

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > IIRC, we also talked about not supporting multiple versions of > python on a given node, so all of the services on a node would need > to be upgraded together. > Will services support both versions at some point for the same OpenStack rele

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Jim Rollenhagen's message of 2018-09-13 12:08:08 -0600: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-09-12 12:04:02 -0600: > > > Excerpts from Clark Boylan's message of 2018-09-12 10:44:55 -0700: > > > > On Wed, Sep 12

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 14:12:56 -0400: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > IIRC, we also talked about not supporting multiple versions of > > python on a given node, so all of the services on a node would need > > to be upgraded together. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 14:12:56 -0400: >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> > >> > IIRC, we also talked about not supporting multiple versions of >> > python on a given node, so all of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 20:09:12 -0400: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 14:12:56 -0400: > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Doug Hellmann > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > IIRC, we also talked a

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-13 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 20:09:12 -0400: >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> > Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 14:12:56 -0400: >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Dou

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-14 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 20:09:12 -0400: > >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > >> > Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-14 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Doug Hellmann >> wrote: >> > Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2018-09-13 20:09:12 -0400: >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Doug He

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-17 Thread Ken Giusti
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:39 PM Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Jim Rollenhagen's message of 2018-09-13 12:08:08 -0600: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Doug Hellmann > > wrote: > > > > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-09-12 12:04:02 -0600: > > > > Excerpts from Clark Boy

Re: [openstack-dev] [goals][python3] mixed versions?

2018-09-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2018-09-17 13:18:28 -0400: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:39 PM Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Jim Rollenhagen's message of 2018-09-13 12:08:08 -0600: [snip] > > > A specific example brought up in the ironic room was the way we encode > > > exceptions i