Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-04-16 08:39:56 -0700: > On 16/04/14 05:53, Thomas Spatzier wrote: > > IMO, it would be desirable to not have things like yum or apt appear in the > > template explicitly. For many packages it seems like at least the top level > > package names (not includ

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Steve Baker
On 16/04/14 21:53, Thomas Spatzier wrote: >> From: Zane Bitter >> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> Date: 16/04/2014 00:46 >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names? >> >> On 15/04/14 17:59, Mike Spreitzer wrote: >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Steven Dake
t.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:39 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names? On 16/04/14 05:53, Thomas Spatzier wrote: IMO, it would be desirable to not have things like yum or apt appear in the template explicitly. For many packag

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Wang, Min
TH_URL] Best Regards! Min Wang Software Engineer-Cloud Service min.wa...@hp.com -Original Message- From: Fox, Kevin M [mailto:kevin@pnnl.gov] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:25 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] c

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Fox, Kevin M
if I can find a bit of time. Thanks, Kevin From: Zane Bitter [zbit...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:39 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names? On 16/04/14 05:53, Thomas Spatzier

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter wrote on 04/16/2014 11:39:56 AM: > In any event, though, my impression is that we are trying to get out of > the cfn-init business as much as possible and leave the task to some > combination of custom images, software config and configuration > management. Hopefully someone will c

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/04/14 05:53, Thomas Spatzier wrote: IMO, it would be desirable to not have things like yum or apt appear in the template explicitly. For many packages it seems like at least the top level package names (not including distro specific versioning strings) are equal across distros so when speci

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Qiming Teng
> Date: 16/04/2014 01:43 > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names? > > > > On 04/15/2014 03:45 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > > > On 15/04/14 17:59, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > >> Clint Byrum wrote on 04/15/2014 05:17:21 PM: > > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Qiming Teng
In the case of yum or apt package installation, I would recommend to give OS::Heat::CloudConfig a try, instead of sticking to cfn-init. The function you proposed (Fn::MemberListToMap) actually brings us back to the previous discussion whether a mapping section is really needed in the native HOT te

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Steven Dake
On 04/16/2014 02:53 AM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: From: Zane Bitter To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 16/04/2014 00:46 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names? On 15/04/14 17:59, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Clint Byrum wrote on 04/15/2014 05:17:21 PM: > Excerpts f

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Thomas Spatzier
> From: Zane Bitter > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Date: 16/04/2014 00:46 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names? > > On 15/04/14 17:59, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > Clint Byrum wrote on 04/15/2014 05:17:21 PM: > > > Excerpts from

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-16 Thread Thomas Spatzier
> From: Steven Dake > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Date: 16/04/2014 01:43 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names? > > On 04/15/2014 03:45 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > > On 15/04/14 17:59, Mike Spreit

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Steven Dake
On 04/15/2014 03:45 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 15/04/14 17:59, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Clint Byrum wrote on 04/15/2014 05:17:21 PM: > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-04-15 13:32:30 -0700: > > > FWIW, in the short term I'm not aware of any issue with installing > > mariadb in Fedora

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/04/14 17:59, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Clint Byrum wrote on 04/15/2014 05:17:21 PM: > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-04-15 13:32:30 -0700: > > > FWIW, in the short term I'm not aware of any issue with installing > > mariadb in Fedora 17/18, provided that mysql is not installed

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-04-15 14:59:50 -0700: > Clint Byrum wrote on 04/15/2014 05:17:21 PM: > > > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-04-15 13:32:30 -0700: > > > > Yes, that _kind_ of thing. But I don't see much point in having an > > > AWS::CloudFormation::Init

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 04/15/2014 05:59:50 PM: > Yes, I can see how OS::Heat::Init makes sense. But is this just the > first thing on a long list? Would it be better to have a static > intrinsic that is like Python's dict(iterable of > iterable)->dictionary function? .. and

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum wrote on 04/15/2014 05:17:21 PM: > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-04-15 13:32:30 -0700: > > Yes, that _kind_ of thing. But I don't see much point in having an > > AWS::CloudFormation::Init section that isn't compatible with > > CloudFormation's definition of it. We al

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-04-15 13:32:30 -0700: > On 15/04/14 15:57, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > Zane Bitter wrote on 04/15/2014 03:29:03 PM: > > > > > On 15/04/14 14:31, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > > > It appears that in Fedora 19 and 20 the Wordpress examples need to > > > > ins

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/04/14 15:57, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Zane Bitter wrote on 04/15/2014 03:29:03 PM: > On 15/04/14 14:31, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > It appears that in Fedora 19 and 20 the Wordpress examples need to > > install different packages than in every other release (see my debugging > > in https:/

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter wrote on 04/15/2014 03:29:03 PM: > On 15/04/14 14:31, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > It appears that in Fedora 19 and 20 the Wordpress examples need to > > install different packages than in every other release (see my debugging > > in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87065/). I just got

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/04/14 14:31, Mike Spreitzer wrote: It appears that in Fedora 19 and 20 the Wordpress examples need to install different packages than in every other release (see my debugging in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87065/). I just got a complaint from Heat validation that I can't do this:

[openstack-dev] [heat] computed package names?

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
It appears that in Fedora 19 and 20 the Wordpress examples need to install different packages than in every other release (see my debugging in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87065/). I just got a complaint from Heat validation that I can't do this: "AWS::CloudFormation::Init" : {