Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc. - Role Assignment

2015-05-09 Thread David Chadwick
Hi Tim I was implying that the addRole operation would not be used or needed in the federation case, because all user roles are initially created by IdPs and then by attribute mappings. I was not saying anything about the various admin roles that might exist because as I understand it, there is

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc. - Role Assignment

2015-05-08 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Hi David, See below. On 5/7/15, 1:01 AM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk wrote: Hi Tim On 06/05/2015 21:53, Tim Hinrichs wrote: I wondered if we could properly protect the API call for adding a new Role using the current mechanism. So I came up with a simple example. Suppose we

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc. - Role Assignment

2015-05-07 Thread David Chadwick
Hi Tim On 06/05/2015 21:53, Tim Hinrichs wrote: I wondered if we could properly protect the API call for adding a new Role using the current mechanism. So I came up with a simple example. Suppose we want to write policy about the API call: addRole(user, role-name). If we’re hosting both

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc.

2015-05-07 Thread Adam Young
On 05/06/2015 06:54 PM, Hu, David J (Converged Cloud) wrote: david8hu One of the first thing we have to do is get all of our glossary straight J I am starting to hear about “capability”. Are we talking about “rule” in oslo policy terms? Or “action” in nova policy terms? Or this is something

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc.

2015-05-07 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thursday, May 7, 2015, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/06/2015 06:54 PM, Hu, David J (Converged Cloud) wrote: david8hu One of the first thing we have to do is get all of our glossary straight J I am starting to hear about “capability”. Are we talking about “rule” in oslo

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc.

2015-05-06 Thread Hu, David J (Converged Cloud)
Nice summary Henry. My comments in brown. From: Adam Young [mailto:ayo...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 8:35 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc. On 05/05/2015 07:05 AM, Henry Nash wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc.

2015-05-06 Thread Tim Hinrichs
@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc. On 05/05/2015 07:05 AM, Henry Nash wrote: We’ve been discussing changes to these areas

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc.

2015-05-05 Thread Adam Young
On 05/05/2015 07:05 AM, Henry Nash wrote: We’ve been discussing changes to these areas for a while - and although I think there is general agreement among the keystone cores that we need to change *something*, we’ve been struggling to get agreement on exactly how.. So to try and ground the

[openstack-dev] [keystone] On dynamic policy, role hierarchies/groups/sets etc.

2015-05-05 Thread Henry Nash
We’ve been discussing changes to these areas for a while - and although I think there is general agreement among the keystone cores that we need to change *something*, we’ve been struggling to get agreement on exactly how.. So to try and ground the discussion that will (I am sure) occur in