Hey Stackers & Sean :),

I just wanted to provide a quick update on where we think Kolla will be when 
ironic and bare metal config are fully fleshed out (landing in Newton).

3 controller, 20 storage, 100 compute with 
ceph+ovs+cinder+enable_central_logging on OSIC 130 node cluster

Currently openstack-only deployment takes 20 minutes
A bare metal dependency install and configuration takes about 10-15 minutes 
(the current playbook craters so this is just a rough estimate)
We would like to see the bifrost deployment complete in 35 minutes (we were 
unable to test this at 123 node scale because the patches haven't landed and we 
are out of osic time).

The goal is to keep a total deploy of 1 hour for 123 nodes from nothing to 
fully operational OpenStack cloud.

As far as subject, I feel pretty happy with the bifrost implementation as it 
exists today .  The idea of turning biforst into thin containers isn't hot on 
my list of things to do.  I am pretty happy with treating bifrost as a fat 
container and using containers here solely for dependency management to keep 
the host os tidy.

That isn't to say we won't ask for further changes to bifrost (and do the work 
to make them so).  I just don't see a strong  rationale for thin-containerizing 
bifrost.  We could change our minds in the future especially if the bifrost 
team were supportive of this idea.  For now I think its fruit at the top of the 
tree without much benefit.  The dependency management and integration with 
kolla will land in newton.

We also have a full ironic implementation that is thin-containerized that is 
nearing completion (tech preview for Newton) to serve the bare metal as a 
service use case.  We plan to use this for bare metal deployment via nova – 
much as is done with virtual machines by selecting a flavor and using nova 
boot.  We are not going to use bifrost for this portion of the job.  Most of 
the work here is getting ironic to cooperate with Vms in the nova scheduler via 
flavors.  I suspect we will have a design session at summit around this very 
topic but its really up to the next PTL.

Hope to see the Ironic  and Kolla community there in this critical (atleast to 
Kolla) cross-project integration effort.

Regards
-seve



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