Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Amit Gandhi
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API? Kurt, Your point is that NoSQL solution may be required for in

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Stan Lagun
gal impact to the entire endeavor, not just to persisting > data in one component of the project. > > Gil Yehuda > Sr. Director Of Open Source, Open Standards > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Griffiths [mailto:kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 20,

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Gil Yehuda
rt.griffi...@rackspace.com] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:29 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API? > The incorporation of AGPLv3 cod

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Mar 20, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 03/20/2014 08:36 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: >> On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 12:07 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: >>> Monty Taylor wrote: On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: > The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/20/2014 12:29 PM, Kurt Griffiths wrote: >> The incorporation of AGPLv3 code Into OpenStack Project is a >> significant decision > > To be clear, Marconi does not incorporate any AGPL code itself; pymongo is > Apache2 licensed. > > Concerns over AGPL were raised when Marconi was incubated,

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Kurt Griffiths
> The incorporation of AGPLv3 code Into OpenStack Project is a >significant decision To be clear, Marconi does not incorporate any AGPL code itself; pymongo is Apache2 licensed. Concerns over AGPL were raised when Marconi was incubated, and I totally respect that some folks are not comfortable w

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/20/2014 11:11 AM, Chuck Thier wrote: > > I agree this is quite an issue but I also think that pretending that > we'll be able to let OpenStack grow with a minimum set of databases, > brokers and web servers is a bit unrealistic. The set of supported > technologies won't be ab

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Chuck Thier
> > > I agree this is quite an issue but I also think that pretending that > we'll be able to let OpenStack grow with a minimum set of databases, > brokers and web servers is a bit unrealistic. The set of supported > technologies won't be able to fulfill the needs of all the > yet-to-be-discovered

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 20/03/14 08:52 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 03/20/2014 08:36 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 12:07 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the determination

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/20/2014 08:36 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 12:07 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Monty Taylor wrote: >>> On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the determination of the consequences are very

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 12:07 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: > >> The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the > >> determination of the consequences are very fact intensive. I was the > >> chair of the User

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Monty Taylor wrote: > On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: >> The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the >> determination of the consequences are very fact intensive. I was the >> chair of the User Committee in developing the GPLv3 and I am therefor >> quite famili

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/20/2014 01:30 AM, Radcliffe, Mark wrote: The problem with AGPL is that the scope is very uncertain and the determination of the consequences are very fact intensive. I was the chair of the User Committee in developing the GPLv3 and I am therefor quite familiar with the legal issues. The i

Re: [openstack-dev] [legal-discuss] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Monty Taylor
Ianal, but I know there are some lawyers out there who are concerned that the mechanism of attachment is vague. If there is an issue (I'm not saying there is) I don't think mongodb's view is relevant, as they are quite likely to be bought by someone, say Oracle, who might not share and would not