[openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Daneyon Hansen (danehans)
All, Does anyone have experience deploying Magnum in a highly-available fashion? If so, I'm interested in learning from your experience. My biggest unknown is the Conductor service. Any insight you can provide is greatly appreciated. Regards, Daneyon Hansen _

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-18 Thread Daneyon Hansen (danehans)
> On Mar 17, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Ricardo Rocha wrote: > > Hi. > > We're on the way, the API is using haproxy load balancing in the same > way all openstack services do here - this part seems to work fine I expected the API to work. Thanks for the confirmation. > > For the conductor we're sto

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-18 Thread Hongbin Lu
/heat-specs/specs/juno/encrypt-hidden-parameters.html Best regards, Hongbin From: David Stanek [mailto:dsta...@dstanek.com] Sent: March-18-16 4:12 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-18 Thread Hongbin Lu
@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability Hongbin, I think Adrian makes some excellent points regarding the adoption of Barbican. As the PTL for Barbican, it's frustrating to me to constantly hear from other projects that securing their sensitive data is a requiremen

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-18 Thread Adrian Otto
ks, Adrian Best regards, Hongbin -Original Message- From: Adrian Otto [mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com] Sent: March-17-16 4:32 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability I have trouble understanding that

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-18 Thread Hongbin Lu
: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability Hongbin, I tweaked the blueprint in accordance with this approach, and approved it for Newton: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/barbican-alternative-store I think this is something we can all agree on as a middle ground, If not, I’m open to

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Hongbin Lu
-dev] [magnum] High Availability Hi. We're on the way, the API is using haproxy load balancing in the same way all openstack services do here - this part seems to work fine. For the conductor we're stopped due to bay certificates - we don't currently have barbican so local was

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Adrian Otto
rbican-alternative-store > > Best regards, > Hongbin > > -Original Message- > From: Ricardo Rocha [mailto:rocha.po...@gmail.com] > Sent: March-17-16 2:39 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnu

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Hongbin Lu
regards, Hongbin -Original Message- From: Adrian Otto [mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com] Sent: March-17-16 4:32 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability I have trouble understanding that blueprint. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Adrian Otto
lternative implementation has been raised >>> several times by different people. IMO, this is a very serious issue that >>> will hurt Magnum adoption. I created a blueprint for that [1] and set the >>> PTL as approver. It will be picked up by a contributor once it is approv

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Tim Bell
ons)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability ... If you disagree, I would request you to justify why this approach works for Heat but not for Magnum. Also, I also wonder if Heat has a plan to set a hard dependency on Barbican for

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Ian Cordasco
  -Original Message- From: Hongbin Lu Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: March 17, 2016 at 20:48:59 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability > Thanks Adr

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Adrian Otto
riginal Message- From: Adrian Otto [mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com] Sent: March-17-16 4:32 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability I have trouble understanding that blueprint. I will put some remarks on the w

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Ricardo Rocha
OpenStack not to replace it. >>> >>> Now, with all that said, I do recognize that not all clouds are motivated >>> to use all available security best practices. They may be operating in >>> environments that they believe are already secure (because of a secure

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Dave McCowan (dmccowan)
enStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability OK. If using Keystone is not acceptable, I am going to propose a new approach: · Store data in Magnum DB ·

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Clark, Robert Graham
I thought that a big part of the use case with Magnum + Barbican was Certificate management for Bays? -Rob From: "Dave McCowan (dmccowan)" Reply-To: OpenStack List Date: Saturday, 19 March 2016 14:56 To: OpenStack List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability The

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Maish Saidel-Keesing
; > Best regards, > Hongbin > > -Original Message- > From: Douglas Mendizábal [mailto:douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com] > Sent: March-18-16 9:45 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability > > Hongbin, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Douglas Mendizábal
9:28 PM > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability > > > > Hongbin, > > > > I tweaked the blueprint in accordance with this approach, and approved > it for Newton: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Douglas Mendizábal
uglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com] > Sent: March-18-16 9:45 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability > > Hongbin, > > I think Adrian makes some excellent points regarding the adoption of > Barbican. As the PTL fo

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
its a totally understandable, but unreasonable request. Thanks, Kevin From: Douglas Mendizábal [douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:45 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability Ho

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Daneyon Hansen (danehans)
unchpad.net/magnum/+spec/barbican-alternative-store > > Best regards, > Hongbin > > -Original Message- > From: Ricardo Rocha [mailto:rocha.po...@gmail.com] > Sent: March-17-16 2:39 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Daneyon Hansen (danehans)
ed to >> use all available security best practices. They may be operating in >> environments that they believe are already secure (because of a secure >> perimeter), and that it’s okay to run fundamentally insecure software within >> those environments. As misguided as this view

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability On 3/18/16, 12:59 PM, "Fox, Kevin M" wrote: >+1. We should be encouraging a common way of solving these issues across >all the openstack projects and security is a really important thing. >spreading it across

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread David Stanek
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:03 PM Douglas Mendizábal < douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com> wrote: > [snip] > > > > Regarding the Keystone solution, I'd like to hear the Keystone team's > feadback on that. It definitely sounds to me like you're trying to put a > square peg in a round hole. > > > > I b

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Ricardo Rocha
Hi. We're on the way, the API is using haproxy load balancing in the same way all openstack services do here - this part seems to work fine. For the conductor we're stopped due to bay certificates - we don't currently have barbican so local was the only option. To get them accessible on all nodes

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
> >Thanks, >Kevin > >From: Douglas Mendizábal [douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com] >Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:45 AM >To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability > >Hongbin, > >I t

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-19 Thread Clark, Robert Graham
over here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/anchor Cheers -Rob > -Original Message- > From: Maish Saidel-Keesing [mailto:mais...@maishsk.com] > Sent: 19 March 2016 18:10 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [mag

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-20 Thread Hongbin Lu
gards, Hongbin From: Dave McCowan (dmccowan) [mailto:dmcco...@cisco.com] Sent: March-19-16 10:56 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability The most basic requirement here for Magnum is that it needs a safe pla

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-20 Thread Hongbin Lu
> -Original Message- > From: Clark, Robert Graham [mailto:robert.cl...@hpe.com] > Sent: March-20-16 1:57 AM > To: maishsk+openst...@maishsk.com; OpenStack Development Mailing List > (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability &

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-21 Thread Hongbin Lu
for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability From: Hongbin Lu mailto:hongbin...@huawei.com>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Saturday 19 March 201

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-22 Thread Ian Cordasco
  -Original Message- From: Hongbin Lu Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: March 21, 2016 at 22:22:01 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability > Tim, > &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-22 Thread Daneyon Hansen (danehans)
ons)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability Tim, Thanks for your advice. I respect your point of view and we will definitely encourage our users to try Barbican if they see fits. However, for the sake of Magnum, I think we hav

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-03-22 Thread Adrian Otto
ing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability Tim, Thanks for your advice. I respect your point of view and we will definitely encourage our users to try Barbican if they see fits. However, for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-04-21 Thread Ricardo Rocha
or operation. >>>> >>>> I am opposed to the idea that Magnum should re-implement Barbican for >>>> certificate storage just because operators are reluctant to adopt it. If >>>> we need to ship a Barbican instance along with each Magnum control plane,

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability

2016-04-21 Thread Hongbin Lu
gt; Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] High Availability > > Hi. > > The thread is a month old, but I sent a shorter version of this to > Daneyon before with some info on the things we dealt with to get Magnum > deployed successfully. We wrapped it up in a post (there's a video