Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/07/2017 07:09 AM, Rui Chen wrote: Actually, some users used postgresql in production deployment(8%), the following photo extract from user survey report of April 2016. Technically the 8% includes both production (4%) as well as dev/QA (3%), and proof-of-concept (1%). Chris

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 02/02/2017 10:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > > > > On 02/01/2017 10:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > >> > >> I personally continue to be of the opinion that without an explicit > >> vocal and well-staffed champion, supporting

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/02/2017 11:42 AM, Sean Dague wrote: That's all fine and good, we just need to rewrite about 100,000 unit tests to do that. I'm totally cool with someone taking that task on, but making a decision about postgresql shouldn't be filibustered on rewriting all the unit tests in OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/02/2017 11:48 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01 2017, Julien Danjou wrote: > >> My questions are simple and can be organized in a tree: >> >>Does Nova want to support PostgreSQL? >> / \ >>Yes No

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On Wed, Feb 01 2017, Julien Danjou wrote: > My questions are simple and can be organized in a tree: > >Does Nova want to support PostgreSQL? > / \ >Yes No >/ \ >Why

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/02/2017 10:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > On 02/01/2017 10:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> >> I personally continue to be of the opinion that without an explicit >> vocal and well-staffed champion, supporting postgres is more trouble >> than it is worth. The vast majority of OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/02/2017 10:59 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 02/02/2017 09:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On 02/01/2017 10:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: I personally continue to be of the opinion that without an explicit vocal and well-staffed champion, supporting postgres is more trouble than it is worth. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/02/2017 09:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > On 02/01/2017 10:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> >> I personally continue to be of the opinion that without an explicit >> vocal and well-staffed champion, supporting postgres is more trouble >> than it is worth. The vast majority of OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > well, let me blow your mind and agree, but noting that this means, *we > drop SQLite also*. IMO every openstack developer should have > MySQL/MariaDB running on their machine and that is part of what runs if you >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 10:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: I personally continue to be of the opinion that without an explicit vocal and well-staffed champion, supporting postgres is more trouble than it is worth. The vast majority of OpenStack deployments are on MySQL - and what's more, the code is written

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 12:24 PM, gordon chung wrote: > > > On 01/02/17 12:15 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> What were you thinking about the messaging? TC resolution for >> deprecation of postgresql as a first class backend? >> >> If setup tools want to support things, that's fine, just they do need to >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 01/02/17 12:15 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > What were you thinking about the messaging? TC resolution for > deprecation of postgresql as a first class backend? > > If setup tools want to support things, that's fine, just they do need to > realize they are owning that support its not coming from

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 12:21 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01 2017, Sean Dague wrote: > >> If setup tools want to support things, that's fine, just they do need to >> realize they are owning that support its not coming from upstream. > > The problem as I see it right now is that upstream is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On Wed, Feb 01 2017, Sean Dague wrote: > If setup tools want to support things, that's fine, just they do need to > realize they are owning that support its not coming from upstream. The problem as I see it right now is that upstream is schizophrenic: it seems it does not want to support nor

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 12:12 PM, gordon chung wrote: > > > On 01/02/17 11:42 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> As I mentioned before, I don't think it matters which of the two we pick >> - although I know _way_ more about MySQL personally and it has a much >> more proven track record at absurdly large scale - I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 01/02/17 11:42 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > As I mentioned before, I don't think it matters which of the two we pick > - although I know _way_ more about MySQL personally and it has a much > more proven track record at absurdly large scale - I just argue that we > should pick one and then

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 10:06 AM, gordon chung wrote: > > > On 01/02/17 10:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> >> I personally continue to be of the opinion that without an explicit >> vocal and well-staffed champion, supporting postgres is more trouble >> than it is worth. The vast majority of OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 01/02/17 10:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > I personally continue to be of the opinion that without an explicit > vocal and well-staffed champion, supporting postgres is more trouble > than it is worth. The vast majority of OpenStack deployments are on > MySQL - and what's more, the code is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 09:18 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 02/01/2017 10:12 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 2/1/2017 8:07 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: It's not just Nova, it's the entire set of integrated-gate jobs which dropped the postgresql job. There is a bit more history there, it's in the ML somewhere, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 09:12 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 2/1/2017 8:07 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> So the Ceilometer gate has been broken again by Nova today because of a >> SQL bug in the placement API with PostgreSQL. This is the second time >> that something like that happened: last

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 02/01/2017 10:12 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 2/1/2017 8:07 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > It's not just Nova, it's the entire set of integrated-gate jobs which > dropped the postgresql job. There is a bit more history there, it's in > the ML somewhere, but it's not just like Nova decided to stop

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

On 2/1/2017 8:07 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: Hi there, So the Ceilometer gate has been broken again by Nova today because of a SQL bug in the placement API with PostgreSQL. This is the second time that something like that happened: last November¹, we also reported a bug in Nova wrt PostgreSQL.

[openstack-dev] [nova][ceilometer][postgresql][gate][telemetry] PostgreSQL gate failure (again)

Hi there, So the Ceilometer gate has been broken again by Nova today because of a SQL bug in the placement API with PostgreSQL. This is the second time that something like that happened: last November¹, we also reported a bug in Nova wrt PostgreSQL. Fortunately, Mehdi investigated and sent a