Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015, at 05:19 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe, Matt Matthew: I hear your frustration with broken stable branches. With my vulnerability management team member hat, responsible for landing patches there with a strict deadline, I can certainly relate with the frustration of

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:19:20AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe, Matt Matthew: I hear your frustration with broken stable branches. With my vulnerability management team member hat, responsible for landing patches there with a strict deadline, I can certainly relate with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread James E. Blair
Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org writes: I also disagree with the proposed solution. We announced a support timeframe for Icehouse, our downstream users made plans around it, so we should stick to it as much as we can. To be fair, if we did that, we did not communicate accurately the

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread David Kranz
On 02/10/2015 10:35 AM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:19:20AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe, Matt Matthew: I hear your frustration with broken stable branches. With my vulnerability management team member hat, responsible for landing patches there with a strict

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:50:28AM -0500, David Kranz wrote: On 02/10/2015 10:35 AM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:19:20AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe, Matt Matthew: I hear your frustration with broken stable branches. With my vulnerability management team member

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-02-10 11:50:28 -0500 (-0500), David Kranz wrote: [...] I would rather give up branchless tempest than the ability for real distributors/deployers/operators to collaborate on stable branches. [...] Keep in mind that branchless tempest came about in part due to downstream use cases as

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread David Kranz
On 02/10/2015 12:20 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-02-10 11:50:28 -0500 (-0500), David Kranz wrote: [...] I would rather give up branchless tempest than the ability for real distributors/deployers/operators to collaborate on stable branches. [...] Keep in mind that branchless tempest came

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
James E. Blair wrote: Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org writes: I also disagree with the proposed solution. We announced a support timeframe for Icehouse, our downstream users made plans around it, so we should stick to it as much as we can. To be fair, if we did that, we did not

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Joe, Matt Matthew: I hear your frustration with broken stable branches. With my vulnerability management team member hat, responsible for landing patches there with a strict deadline, I can certainly relate with the frustration of having to dive in to unbork the branch in the first place, rather

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-10 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, my name was called out here, so I think I need to present my thoughts on the matter. :) And sorry for writing too many words below. === As a disclaimer, I was not the one to support long support term for stable branches. On the previous summit,

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/9/2015 12:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Feb 9, 2015 10:04 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com mailto:mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: There are at least two blocking bugs: 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1419913 Sounds like jogo is working a javelin fix

[openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Matt Riedemann
There are at least two blocking bugs: 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1419913 Sounds like jogo is working a javelin fix for this. I'm not aware of a patch to review though. 2. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1419919 I'm not sure yet what's going on with this one. --

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Feb 9, 2015 10:04 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: There are at least two blocking bugs: 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1419913 Sounds like jogo is working a javelin fix for this. I'm not aware of a patch to review though. We need to stop trying to install

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/9/2015 12:03 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: There are at least two blocking bugs: 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1419913 Sounds like jogo is working a javelin fix for this. I'm not aware of a patch to review though. 2. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1419919 I'm not

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Alan Pevec ape...@gmail.com wrote: Tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/wedged-stable-gate-feb-2015 BTW there is a tracking etherpad updated by https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Stable_branch_champions

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread John Griffith
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 2/9/2015 12:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Feb 9, 2015 10:04 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com mailto:mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 2/9/2015 12:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Feb 9, 2015 10:04 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com mailto:mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: There are at least two blocking bugs: 1.

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/9/2015 2:56 PM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 2/9/2015 12:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Feb 9, 2015 10:04 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com mailto:mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: There are at least two

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:02 PM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Matt Riedemann

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:02 PM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 2/9/2015 12:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Feb 9, 2015 10:04

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Alan Pevec
Tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/wedged-stable-gate-feb-2015 BTW there is a tracking etherpad updated by https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Stable_branch_champions https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker linked in

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] juno is fubar in the gate

2015-02-09 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 03:10:28PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 2/9/2015 2:56 PM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 2/9/2015 12:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Feb 9, 2015 10:04 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com