Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-26 Thread Vilobh Meshram
saction: >>>> >>>> provider := SELECT id, generation, ... FROM >>>> resource_providers >>>> JOIN (...) >>>> WHERE () >>>> >>>> for resource i

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-25 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 23 Apr 2016 14:26, "Jay Pipes" wrote: > On 04/23/2016 03:18 PM, Mike Perez wrote: >> How about extending a volume? A volume is a resource and can be extended in >> Cinder today. > > > Yep, understood :) I recognize some resource amounts can be modified for some resource classes. How about *sh

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 23, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > Looking forward to arriving in Austin so that I can buy you a beer, Amrith, > and have a high-bandwidth conversation about how you're wrong. :P Beer is a great addition to any conversation! -- Ed ___

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-23 Thread Edward Leafe
On Apr 23, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Jay Pipes mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > BTW, note to Ed Leafe... unless your distributed data store supports > transactional semantics, you can't use a distributed data store for these > types of solutions. Instead, you will need to write a whole bunch of code

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-23 Thread Mike Perez
On 15:25 Apr 23, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 04/23/2016 03:18 PM, Mike Perez wrote: > >On 14:54 Apr 18, Jay Pipes wrote: > >>On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > >>> - update_resource(id or resource, newsize) > >> > >>Resizing resources is a bad idea, IMHO. Resources are easier to deal w

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-23 Thread Tom Barron
On 04/23/2016 03:25 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 04/23/2016 03:18 PM, Mike Perez wrote: >> On 14:54 Apr 18, Jay Pipes wrote: >>> On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: - update_resource(id or resource, newsize) >>> >>> Resizing resources is a bad idea, IMHO. Resources are easier t

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-23 Thread Amrith Kumar
On Sat, 2016-04-23 at 15:25 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 04/23/2016 03:18 PM, Mike Perez wrote: > > On 14:54 Apr 18, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > >>> - update_resource(id or resource, newsize) > >> > >> Resizing resources is a bad idea, IMHO. Resource

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/23/2016 03:18 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 14:54 Apr 18, Jay Pipes wrote: On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: - update_resource(id or resource, newsize) Resizing resources is a bad idea, IMHO. Resources are easier to deal with when they are considered of immutable size and

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-23 Thread Mike Perez
On 14:54 Apr 18, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > > - update_resource(id or resource, newsize) > > Resizing resources is a bad idea, IMHO. Resources are easier to deal with > when they are considered of immutable size and simple (i.e. not complex or > nested

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/22/2016 09:57 PM, Tim Bell wrote: I have reservations on f and g. Probably not the *best* choice of words to describe your concerns, Tim :P -jay __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubs

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-22 Thread Amrith Kumar
11:19 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota > Management Library proposal > > On 04/22/2016 07:51 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > > If it doesn't make it harder, I would like to see if we can make

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/22/2016 07:51 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: If it doesn’t make it harder, I would like to see if we can make the quota API take care of the ordering of requests. i.e. if the quota API is an extension of Jay’s example and accepts some data structure (dict?) with all the claims that a project wants

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-22 Thread Vilobh Meshram
> From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:08 PM >>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota >>> Management Library proposal >>> >&

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-21 Thread Joshua Harlow
#Data+Access Amrith Kumar wrote: Inline below ... thread is too long, will catch you in Austin. -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:08 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELI

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-21 Thread Amrith Kumar
uld not but this email thread has got too long. Yes, simpler interface, will catch you in Austin. > Best, > -jay > > On 04/19/2016 09:59 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Monday, A

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-21 Thread Monty Taylor
m: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:54 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: If we therefore assume that this will

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-21 Thread Jay Pipes
al Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:54 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: If we therefore assume

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-19 Thread Amrith Kumar
Jay, thanks for the detailed comments. Detailed responses follow. -amrith > -Original Message- > From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:54 PM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of

Re: [openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/16/2016 05:51 PM, Amrith Kumar wrote: If we therefore assume that this will be a Quota Management Library, it is safe to assume that quotas are going to be managed on a per-project basis, where participating projects will use this library. I believe that it stands to reason that any data p

[openstack-dev] More on the topic of DELIMITER, the Quota Management Library proposal

2016-04-16 Thread Amrith Kumar
First, let me thank Vilobh, Nikhil, Duncan and others who have been working on this quota management library/service issue. Recently there have been a number of threads [1], [2], [3] on the subject of quotas and quota management. This email is partially in response to [3] but since it is too long f