Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-21 15:12:45 -0500: > On 18/11/16 16:47, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-17 18:24:35 -0500: > >> On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: > > I know Monty said this, but I want to say it again: gRPC is just HTTP/2 >

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/21/2016 03:36 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 18/11/16 16:56, Clint Byrum wrote: >> Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-18 14:24:43 -0500: >>> So, say that I want to create my servers in Heat so that I can use Heat >>> software deployments for orchestration. How would I go about e.g.

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/21/2016 03:25 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: >>I'm not saying that you have to supply any IP addresses to the pool. > Just that only the wilfully contrary should call the internet anything > other than "internet", and that we should ensure this *in code* instead > of just hoping that everyone will

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-11-21 15:12:45 -0500 (-0500), Zane Bitter wrote: [...] > (Also, the point of floating IPs with access to only the control plane is > not so instances can access the control plane; it's so that the control > plane can access the instances without everyone on the internet - or > whatever

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Steve Baker
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 18/11/16 16:56, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-18 14:24:43 -0500: >> >>> So, say that I want to create my servers in Heat so that I can use Heat >>> software deployments for

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Zane Bitter
On 18/11/16 16:56, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-18 14:24:43 -0500: So, say that I want to create my servers in Heat so that I can use Heat software deployments for orchestration. How would I go about e.g. making sure that the servers are always connected to

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Kevin Benton
>I'm not saying that you have to supply any IP addresses to the pool. Just that only the wilfully contrary should call the internet anything other than "internet", and that we should ensure this *in code* instead of just hoping that everyone will coincidentally choose the same thing (spoiler: they

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Zane Bitter
On 18/11/16 16:47, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-17 18:24:35 -0500: On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/18/2016 04:56 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-18 14:24:43 -0500: >> On 17/11/16 19:01, Monty Taylor wrote: >>> On 11/17/2016 05:24 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: > Hey everybody! > > At this past

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-17 18:24:35 -0500: > On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: > > Hey everybody! > > > > At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were > > shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 > > different clouds

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-11-18 14:24:43 -0500: > On 17/11/16 19:01, Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 11/17/2016 05:24 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > >> On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: > >>> Hey everybody! > >>> > >>> At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-18 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/11/16 19:01, Monty Taylor wrote: On 11/17/2016 05:24 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 different clouds

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/17/2016 05:24 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: >> Hey everybody! >> >> At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were >> shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 >> different clouds ran the same workload. And

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/11/16 09:56, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 different clouds ran the same workload. And it worked! However, one of the reasons it worked is

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-16 Thread joehuang
around Shade locally will be enough? Best Regards Chaoyi Huang (joehuang) From: Monty Taylor [mord...@inaugust.com] Sent: 16 November 2016 23:58 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-16 Thread Dean Troyer
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > (there are parts of this that are hand-wavey - but how does it sound in > general?) That sounds basically good because that noise I heard last night must have been you sneaking in and stealing those steps from my white

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-16 Thread Brad Topol
<openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Date: 11/15/2016 08:42 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help? On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote: Awesome start, Monty :) Comments inlin

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/16/2016 09:34 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 11/15/2016 11:26 PM, joehuang wrote: >>> Glance Image Uploads and Swift Object Uploads (and downloads). Having >>> those two data operations go through an API proxy seems inefficient. >>> However, having them not in the API seems like a bad user

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/15/2016 07:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > Awesome start, Monty :) Comments inline. Yay - thanks Jay! > On 11/15/2016 09:56 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> Hey everybody! >> >> At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were >> shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/15/2016 11:26 PM, joehuang wrote: >> Glance Image Uploads and Swift Object Uploads (and downloads). Having >> those two data operations go through an API proxy seems inefficient. >> However, having them not in the API seems like a bad user experience. >> Perhaps if we take advantage of the

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-16 Thread joehuang
...@inaugust.com] Sent: 15 November 2016 22:56 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help? Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-15 Thread joehuang
usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help? Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 different clouds ran the same

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-15 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > Awesome start, Monty :) Comments inline. > > On 11/15/2016 09:56 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > >> Hey everybody! >> >> At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were >> shown on stage. It was pretty

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-15 Thread Jay Pipes
Awesome start, Monty :) Comments inline. On 11/15/2016 09:56 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 different clouds ran the same workload. And it worked!

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-15 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > The auth story. The native/default auth for gRPC is oauth. It has the > ability for pluggable auth, but that would raise the barrier for new > languages. I'd love it if we can come up with a story that involves > making

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-15 Thread Sean M. Collins
Great idea, I just ran into a similar issue when investigating the following Kubernetes issue[1], and the OpenStack provider. They are running into similar issues around networking and what a "public" network address is, which is exactly what Shade had to deal with, in the public clouds that we

[openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-15 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 different clouds ran the same workload. And it worked! However, one of the reasons it worked is because they all used the Ansible modules we