Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Joe Gordon
As a heads up, here is a patch to remove Sahara from the default configuration as well. This is part of the effort to further decouple the 'integrated gate' so we don't have to gate every project on the tests for every project. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181230/ On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:58

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Sean M. Collins
On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 01:40:53PM EDT, Sean Dague wrote: > On 05/07/2015 01:37 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > > Sean, > > > > Nobody is able to track and know *everything*. > > > > Friendly reminder that Heat is going to be removed and not installed by > > default would help to avoid such situation

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Joshua, Makes sense, perhaps all the test (and/or test-like) frameworks could share > some code + common config that does this, seems to be something simple (and > something that all could use for pre-testing validation of all the expected > services being alive/active/up/responding...)? In Ral

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Boris Pavlovic
> > So... test jobs should be extremely explicit about what they setup and > what they expect. +2 Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 05/07/2015 02:29 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > > Boris Pavlovic wrote: > >> Sean, > >> > >> Nobody is able to trac

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sean Dague wrote: On 05/07/2015 02:29 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Boris Pavlovic wrote: Sean, Nobody is able to track and know *everything*. Friendly reminder that Heat is going to be removed and not installed by default would help to avoid such situations. Doesn't keystone have a service listi

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 05/07/2015 02:29 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > Boris Pavlovic wrote: >> Sean, >> >> Nobody is able to track and know *everything*. >> >> Friendly reminder that Heat is going to be removed and not installed by >> default would help to avoid such situations. > > Doesn't keystone have a service listi

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Joshua, Doesn't keystone have a service listing? Use that in rally (and > elsewhere?), if keystone had a service and each service had a API discovery > ability, there u go, profit! ;) Exactly that happened. We were running benchmarks against Heat and Rally task validation start failing saying

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Joshua Harlow
Boris Pavlovic wrote: Sean, Nobody is able to track and know *everything*. Friendly reminder that Heat is going to be removed and not installed by default would help to avoid such situations. Doesn't keystone have a service listing? Use that in rally (and elsewhere?), if keystone had a servi

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Sean, Thank you for advice. We are going to fix jobs ASAP. Here is the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181088/ But seems like it's not ready yet. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 05/07/2015 01:37 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > > Sean,

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On May 7, 2015, at 10:40, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 05/07/2015 01:37 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: >> Sean, >> >> Nobody is able to track and know *everything*. >> >> Friendly reminder that Heat is going to be removed and not installed by >> default would help to avoid such situations. > > Sur

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 05/07/2015 01:37 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > Sean, > > Nobody is able to track and know *everything*. > > Friendly reminder that Heat is going to be removed and not installed by > default would help to avoid such situations. Sure, but that misses the first point, that gate jobs should really

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Sean, Nobody is able to track and know *everything*. Friendly reminder that Heat is going to be removed and not installed by default would help to avoid such situations. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 05/07/2015 12:51 PM, Boris Pavlovic w

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 05/07/2015 12:51 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > Hi stackers, > > Recently was merged patch that removes Heat from list of service that > are installed by default DevStack > > Please next time make sure that all PTL of all projects in OpenStack > know about such big not backward compatible chang