Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-08 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > At the TC meeting yesterday we discussed Rally program request and > incubation request. We quickly dismissed the incubation request, as > Rally appears to be able to live happily on top of OpenStack and would > benefit from

[openstack-dev] [qa] Do I need a spec for testing the compute os-networks API?

2014-08-08 Thread Matt Riedemann
This came up while reviewing the fix for bug 1327406 [1]. Basically the os-networks API behaves differently depending on your backing network manager in nova-network. We run Tempest in the gate with the FlatDHCPManager, which has the bug; if you try to list networks as a non-admin user it won

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Do I need a spec for testing the compute os-networks API?

2014-08-08 Thread Andrea Frittoli
Thanks Matt for bringing this up/ There is a tiny start in flight here [0] - if you plan to work on providing full testing coverage for the n-net api you may want to create a spec with a link to an etherpad to help track / split the work. andrea [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107552/21

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Passing a list of ResourceGroup's attributes back to its members

2014-08-08 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 08/08/14 00:53, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 07/08/14 13:22, Tomas Sedovic wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have a ResourceGroup which wraps a custom resource defined in another >> template: >> >> servers: >>type: OS::Heat::ResourceGroup >>properties: >> count: 10 >> r

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Do I need a spec for testing the compute os-networks API?

2014-08-08 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 8/8/2014 9:50 AM, Andrea Frittoli wrote: Thanks Matt for bringing this up/ There is a tiny start in flight here [0] - if you plan to work on providing full testing coverage for the n-net api you may want to create a spec with a link to an etherpad to help track / split the work. andrea [0

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/07/2014 01:17 PM, Ronak Shah wrote: Hi, Following a very interesting and vocal thread on GBP for last couple of days and the GBP meeting today, GBP sub-team proposes following name changes to the resource. policy-point for endpoint policy-group for endpointgroup (epg) Please reply if you

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Wuhongning [mailto:[email protected]] wrote: >Does it make sense to move all advanced extension out of ML2, like security >group, qos...? Then we can just talk about advanced service itself, without >bothering basic neutron object (network/subnet/port) A modular layer 3 (ML3) analogous to ML2

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Image upload/download bandwidth cap

2014-08-08 Thread Tomoki Sekiyama
Hi all, I'm considering how I can apply image download/upload bandwidth limit for glance for network QoS. There was a review for the bandwidth limit, however it is abandoned. * Download rate limiting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21380/ Was there any discussion in the past summit about thi

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
The existing constructs will not change. On Aug 8, 2014 9:49 AM, "CARVER, PAUL" wrote: > Wuhongning [mailto:[email protected]] wrote: > > >Does it make sense to move all advanced extension out of ML2, like > security > >group, qos...? Then we can just talk about advanced service itself, > wit

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Nova] API design and usability

2014-08-08 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On 2014-08-08 8:54 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: On 08/07/2014 07:57 AM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: IMO, moving the burden of such orchestration (and garbage collection) to the end users would be a mistake. It's not a good UX at all. I could say that removing auto-creation is like having to create your v

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Hi Paul, Don't need to worry, you are perfectly right, GBP API is not replacing anything :). Also thanks for sharing your opinion on this matter. Thanks, Ivar. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:46 PM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: > Wuhongning [mailto:[email protected]] wrote: > > >Does it make sense to mo

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Akash Gangil
Quick Question: >From what I understand, GBP is a high level declarative way of configuring the network which ultimately gets mapped to basic Neutron API's via some business logic. Why can't it be in a module of it own? In that way users who want to use it can just install that and use it as an int

[openstack-dev] testing performance/latency of various components?

2014-08-08 Thread Chris Friesen
Is there a straightforward way to determine where the time is going when I run a command from novaclient? For instance, if I run "nova list", that's going to run novaclient, which will send a message to nova-api, which wakes up and does some processing and sends a message to nova-conductor, wh

Re: [openstack-dev] testing performance/latency of various components?

2014-08-08 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Chris, We working on cross service project profiler OSprofiler [1] and integrating it in all projects (including gates) Please join discussion here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103825/ If everting goes well we will get this feature in Juno. So we will be able to trace request cross service-p

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/08/2014 08:55 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: The existing constructs will not change. A followup question on the above... If GPB API is merged into Neutron, the next logical steps (from what I can tell) will be to add drivers that handle policy-based payloads/requests. Some of these drivers,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Michael Still wrote: > > [...] I think an implied side effect of > > the runway system is that nova-drivers would -2 blueprint reviews > > which were not occupying a slot. > > > > (If we start doing more -2's I think we will need to explore

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Hi Jay, You can choose. The whole purpose of this is about flexibility, if you want to use GBP API 'only' with a specific driver you just can. Additionally, given the 'ML2 like' architecture, the reference mapping driver can ideally run alongside by filling the core Neutron constructs without ever

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Salvatore Orlando
It might be because of the wording used, but it seems to me that you're making it sound like the group policy effort could have been completely orthogonal to neutron as we know it now. What I understood is that the declarative abstraction offered by group policy could do without any existing neutr

[openstack-dev] What's happening with stable release management?

2014-08-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, For updating keystone from 2014.1.1 to 2014.1.2, I had to: - Upgrade oslo-config from 1.2.1 to 1.4.0.0~a3 - Upgrade oslo.messaging from 1.3.0~a9 to 1.4.0.0~a3 - Upgrade python-six from 1.6 to 1.7 - Upgrade python-pycadf from 0.4 to 0.5.1 - Add python-ldappool - Add python-oslo.db - Add python

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-08 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
Hi Alistair, Modules can register their own options and there is no need to call reload_config_files. The config files are parsed and values stored in case the option is later declared. The only time you need to reload files is if you add new config files in the new module. See the example code

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Bug#1231298 - size parameter for volume creation

2014-08-08 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Aug 8, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Ganapathy, Sandhya > wrote: > This is to discuss Bug #1231298 – > https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1231298 > > ... > Conclusion reached with this bug is that, we need to modify cinder client in > order

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Is network ordering of vNICs guaranteed?

2014-08-08 Thread CARVER, PAUL
I'm hearing "friend of a friend" that people have looked at the code and determined that the order of networks on a VM is not guaranteed. Can anyone confirm whether this is true? If it is true, is there any reason why this is not considered a bug? I've never seen it happen myself. To elaborate,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/08/2014 02:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > I agree with Eoghan here. The main goal of an agile/lean system is to > maximize a development team productivity. The main goal of Open source > project management is not to maximize productivity. It’s to maximize > contributions. I wrote about that a

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
There is an enforcement component to the group policy that allows you to use the current APIs and it's the reason that group policy is integrated into the neutron project. If someone uses the current APIs, the group policy plugin will make sure they don't violate any policy constraints before passi

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
Does your log server allow anonymous uploads that caused it to host malware or something that led to it being blocked? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > Trinath: > > In looking at your FWaaS review [1], I noticed the site you are using > for log storage is being blacklisted

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 3:34 AM, Piyush Harsh wrote: > Dear Eoghan, > > Thanks for your comments. Although you are correct that rating, charging, and > billing policies are commercially sensitive to the operators, still if an > operator has an openstack installation, I do not see why the stack cou

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework

2014-08-08 Thread Pendergrass, Eric
> From: David Stanek [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 7:25 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in > Ceilometer pecan framework > It looks like maybe WSME or Pecan is ins

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 8, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: > There is an enforcement component to the group policy that allows you to use > the current APIs and it's the reason that group policy is integrated into the > neutron project. If someone uses the current APIs, the group policy plugin > will ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
The only issue with the separate service proxying API calls is that it can't receive requests between the service and core plugins. What kind of stability requirements were you concerned about? A response change would be similar to having a custom policy.json file where things that violate constra

Re: [openstack-dev] What's happening with stable release management?

2014-08-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi, > > For updating keystone from 2014.1.1 to 2014.1.2, I had to: > > - Upgrade oslo-config from 1.2.1 to 1.4.0.0~a3 > - Upgrade oslo.messaging from 1.3.0~a9 to 1.4.0.0~a3 > - Upgrade python-six from 1.6 to 1.7 > - Upgrade python-pycadf from 0.4 to 0.5.1 > - Add python-ld

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Hi Jay, To extend Ivar's response here, the core resources and core plugin configuration does not change with the addition of these extensions. The mechanism to implement the GBP extensions is via a service plugin. So even in a deployment where a GBP service plugin is deployed with a driver which i

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/08/2014 12:29 PM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: Hi Jay, To extend Ivar's response here, the core resources and core plugin configuration does not change with the addition of these extensions. The mechanism to implement the GBP extensions is via a service plugin. So even in a deployment where a GBP

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Actually I am able to access the logs in this CI over the internet and through my service provider. I have copy-pasted the log from the latest freescale run here (to validate if this is indeed the latest run): http://paste.openstack.org/show/92229/ But good point Kevin, when I was trying to post t

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > Hi Alistair, > > Modules can register their own options and there is no need to call > reload_config_files. The config files are parsed and values stored in case > the option is later declared. The only time you need to reload files is i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-08 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Thanks Jay for your constructive feedback on this. I personally think that 'policy-target' is a good option. I am not sure what the rest of the team thinks, perhaps they can chime in. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/07/2014 01:17 PM, Ronak Shah wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Followi

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
On 8 August 2014 10:56, Kevin Benton wrote: > There is an enforcement component to the group policy that allows you to > use the current APIs and it's the reason that group policy is integrated > into the neutron project. If someone uses the current APIs, the group > policy plugin will make sure

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-08 Thread Ryan Moats
+1 Sumit Naiksatam wrote on 08/08/2014 02:44:55 PM: > From: Sumit Naiksatam > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Date: 08/08/2014 02:45 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming > > Thanks Jay for your constructive fee

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-08 Thread Stephen Wong
"policy target" sounds good. +1 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: > Thanks Jay for your constructive feedback on this. I personally think > that 'policy-target' is a good option. I am not sure what the rest of > the team thinks, perhaps they can chime in. > > On Fri, Aug

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework

2014-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote: > Hi, > > We have been struggling to get a decorator working for proposed new RBAC > functionality in ceilometer-api. We’re hitting a problem where GET request > query parameters are mucked up by our decorator. Here’s an example call: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-08 Thread Prasad Vellanki
It sounds good +1 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: > Thanks Jay for your constructive feedback on this. I personally think > that 'policy-target' is a good option. I am not sure what the rest of > the team thinks, perhaps they can chime in. > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:43

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Armando M. wrote: > On 8 August 2014 10:56, Kevin Benton wrote: >> >> There is an enforcement component to the group policy that allows you to >> use the current APIs and it's the reason that group policy is integrated >> into the neutron project. If someone uses

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Image upload/download bandwidth cap

2014-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/08/2014 08:49 AM, Tomoki Sekiyama wrote: Hi all, I'm considering how I can apply image download/upload bandwidth limit for glance for network QoS. There was a review for the bandwidth limit, however it is abandoned. * Download rate limiting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21380/ Was

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Robert Kukura
[Note - I understand there are ongoing discussion that may lead to a proposal for an out-of-tree incubation process for new Neutron features. This is a complementary proposal that describes how our existing development process can be used to stabilize new features in-tree over the time frame of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Image upload/download bandwidth cap

2014-08-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/08/2014 04:17 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/08/2014 08:49 AM, Tomoki Sekiyama wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm considering how I can apply image download/upload bandwidth limit for >> glance for network QoS. >> >> There was a review for the bandwidth limit, however it is abandoned. >> >> * Download

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Prasad Vellanki
GBP is about networking policy and hence limited to networking constructs. It enhances the networking constructs. Since it follows more or less the plugin model, it is not in one monolithic module but fans out to the policy module and is done via extension. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Arman

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Image upload/download bandwidth cap

2014-08-08 Thread Arnaud Legendre
+1, That’s what suggested in the blueprint a year ago: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/transfer-rate-limiting "It looks like consensus during summit discussion that rate limiting should be a separate facility running as a proxy in front of glance.” Thanks, Arnaud On Aug 8, 2014,

Re: [openstack-dev] What's happening with stable release management?

2014-08-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: > I'll upload a new tarball ASAP. I took down the wrong one. Sorry for the > inconvenience... the issues here are not a policy problem, they are just > human error in the original tag, complicated by CI staleness that made > us think we fixed it while we didn't. keystone 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-08 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
That's ok for me as well! +1 On Aug 8, 2014 10:04 PM, "Prasad Vellanki" < [email protected]> wrote: > It sounds good > +1 > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Sumit Naiksatam > wrote: > >> Thanks Jay for your constructive feedback on this. I personally think >> that 'policy-tar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Image upload/download bandwidth cap

2014-08-08 Thread Tomoki Sekiyama
On 8/8/14 16:28 , "Arnaud Legendre" mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: +1, That’s what suggested in the blueprint a year ago: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/transfer-rate-limiting "It looks like consensus during summit discussion that rate limiting should be a separate facility

[openstack-dev] Retrigger turbo-hipster

2014-08-08 Thread jswarren
I'm unable to retrigger the turbo-hipster verification job on a change ("recheck migrations" comment retriggers Jenkins but not turbo-hipster) and I sent an e-mail to [email protected] two days ago and still have not received a reply. Has anyone else run into this problem and found a way

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-08 Thread Brent Eagles
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:40:28PM +0800, Tom Fifield wrote: > >While DB migrations are running things like the nova metadata service > >can/will misbehave - and user code within instances will be affected. > >Thats arguably VM downtime. > > > >OTOH you could define it more narrowly as 'VMs are no

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/08/2014 09:06 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: >> - instead implement a third party CI with the latest available >> libvirt release [1] > > As for the general idea of doing CI, absolutely. That was discussed > earlier in the thread, though nobody has picked up the ball yet. I can > work on it, t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-08 Thread Henry Fourie
+1 for policy-target -Original Message- From: Sumit Naiksatam [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 12:45 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming Thanks Jay

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/06/2014 01:41 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/06/2014 01:40 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: >> On 06/08/14 13:30, Robert Collins wrote: >>> On 6 August 2014 17:27, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 13:24, Robert Collins wrote: >>> > What happened to your DB migrations then? :) Sorry

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Hi Robert, I think this is a great proposal. Easy to understand and (at a first glance) easy to implement. Also, it seems the perfect compromise for those who wanted GBP (as a representative for this kind of extension) in tree, and those who wanted it to be more mature first. Fwiw, You have my su

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Robert Kukura wrote: > [Note - I understand there are ongoing discussion that may lead to a > proposal for an out-of-tree incubation process for new Neutron features. > This is a complementary proposal that describes how our existing development > process can be use

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
> > Adding the GBP extension to Neutron does not change the nature of the > software architecture of Neutron making it more or less monolithic. I agree with this statement...partially: the way GBP was developed is in accordance to the same principles and architectural choices made for the service

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
>This is the statement that makes me trip over, I don't know what that means. Does it mean that you are so incredibly shocked by the stupidity of that statement that you fall down? Or does it mean something else? >Policy decision points can be decentralized from the system under scrutiny, Unfor

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we > produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core > reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's > happening. For such projects, is it

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] devtest environment for virtual or true bare metal

2014-08-08 Thread Ben Nemec
That sounds essentially correct. Note that all 15 vms aren't used in a normal devtest run, but we create them all anyway because of some difficulties adding new environments in some situations (namely CI, I believe). On 08/05/2014 11:27 AM, LeslieWang wrote: > Hi Ben, > Thanks for your reply. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Salvatore Orlando
"If we want to keep everything the way it is, we have to change everything" [1] This is pretty much how I felt after reading this proposal, and I felt that this quote, which Ivar will probably appreciate, was apt to the situation. Recent events have spurred a discussion about the need for a change

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 08/05/2014 09:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is >> facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the >> ultimate success or failure o

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
On 8 August 2014 14:55, Kevin Benton wrote: > >This is the statement that makes me trip over, > > I don't know what that means. Does it mean that you are so incredibly > shocked by the stupidity of that statement that you fall down? Or does it > mean something else? > Why would you think that? I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Passing a list of ResourceGroup's attributes back to its members

2014-08-08 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/08/14 11:07, Tomas Sedovic wrote: On 08/08/14 00:53, Zane Bitter wrote: On 07/08/14 13:22, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi all, I have a ResourceGroup which wraps a custom resource defined in another template: servers: type: OS::Heat::ResourceGroup properties: co

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > That’s right. The preferred approach is to put the register_opt() in > *runtime* code somewhere before the option will be used. That might be in > the constructor for a class that uses an option, for example, as described > in > http://docs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-08 Thread Chet Burgess
On Aug 8, 2014, at 14:09 , Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/06/2014 01:41 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> On 08/06/2014 01:40 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: >>> On 06/08/14 13:30, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 17:27, Tom Fifield wrote: > On 06/08/14 13:24, Robert Collins wrote: >> What

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db]A proposal for DB read/write separation

2014-08-08 Thread Mike Wilson
Li Ma, This is interesting, In general I am in favor of expanding the scope of any read/write separation capabilities that we have. I'm not clear what exactly you are proposing, hopefully you can answer some of my questions inline. The thing I had thought of immediately was detection of whether an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Is network ordering of vNICs guaranteed?

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
If this is true, I think the issue is not on Neutron side but the Nova side. Neutron just receives and handles individual port requests. It has no notion of the order in which they are attached to the VM. Can you add the Nova tag to get some visibility to the Nova devs? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Prasad Vellanki
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Armando M. wrote: > Adding the GBP extension to Neutron does not change the nature of the >> software architecture of Neutron making it more or less monolithic. > > > I agree with this statement...partially: the way GBP was developed is in > accordance to the same

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug squashing day

2014-08-08 Thread Ronak Shah
Hi Eugene, I dig into few medium priority bugs yesterday and today. Have added comments there. I started from the bottom in the list at etherpad. I will continue to go in the reverse order on daily basis as and when I get time. Let me know if you need any specific help wrt this. ping me on irc (rms

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
> One advantage of the service plugin is that one can leverage the neutron > common framework such as Keystone authentication where common scoping is > done. It would be important in the policy type of framework to have such > scoping > The framework you're referring to is common and already reus

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread Hemanth Ravi
Hi, Robert Kukura's proposal does address the following: 1. Make it explicit to the user that an API is in "preview" until it's moved out of the preview directories 2. One of the criteria to accept a BP for preview is for the functionality to be optional via configuration. This will not impact th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-08 Thread gustavo panizzo (gfa)
i like your idea, as an operator, it gives me new features while keep my core running fine. only one think i didn't like it why all url,api, etc has to include the word 'preview'? i imagine that i would be consuming the new feature using heat, puppet, local scripts, custom horizon, whatever. Why

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Hemanth Ravi
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Armando M. wrote: > > >> One advantage of the service plugin is that one can leverage the neutron >> common framework such as Keystone authentication where common scoping is >> done. It would be important in the policy type of framework to have such >> scoping >>

Re: [openstack-dev] What's happening with stable release management?

2014-08-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/09/2014 04:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Thierry Carrez wrote: >> I'll upload a new tarball ASAP. I took down the wrong one. Sorry for the >> inconvenience... the issues here are not a policy problem, they are just >> human error in the original tag, complicated by CI staleness that made >>

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Armando M.
> > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Armando M. wrote: > >> >> >>> One advantage of the service plugin is that one can leverage the >>> neutron common framework such as Keystone authentication where common >>> scoping is done. It would be important in the policy type of framework to >>> have su

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread [email protected]
Hi Kyle- I’m using a paid hosting from GODADDY. The website is http://fslopenstackci.com. I registered this domain too. This time it’s not a free hosting that I used long back. I’m posting to this domain from past 3 months. Does anyone have the same issue with my logs website? -- Trinath

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread [email protected]
Hi Sumit- When I try to paste a large log text into paste.openstack, It is giving me image verification and says its spam. I don't know why its taken as spam/malware. It's a paid hosting I had from GODADDY. -- Trinath Somanchi - B39208 [email protected] | extn: 4048 -Original

Re: [openstack-dev] Retrigger turbo-hipster

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 02:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > I'm unable to retrigger the turbo-hipster verification job on a change > ("recheck migrations" comment retriggers Jenkins but not turbo-hipster) > and I sent an e-mail to [email protected] two days ago and still have not > received a re

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 10:06 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Sumit- > > When I try to paste a large log text into paste.openstack, It is giving me > image verification and says its spam. Let's not confuse paste.openstack.org's spam blocker from spam blockers on servers. They are two separat

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 07:58 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is >>> facing complex challenges. Ho

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread [email protected]
Thanks anita for the reply. Previously the existing server is accessible by kyle. But now its not being accessible. For the paid hosting I have its administered by godaddy and the FTP is only accessed by Jenkins. I can try relocating FTP web based file browser script and provide a normal vi

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/08/2014 11:27 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Thanks anita for the reply. > > Previously the existing server is accessible by kyle. But now its not being > accessible. > > For the paid hosting I have its administered by godaddy If you are paying godaddy to administer the serve

[openstack-dev] [gerrit] Preparing a patch that has dependency to more than one code under review

2014-08-08 Thread Nader Lahouti
Hi, Is it possible to send a patch for review (i.e. A) on gerrit based on multiple commit under the review (i.e. B and C)? Based on the wiki page to add dependency these command should be used: A->B, A->C (no dependency between B and C) #fetch change under review and check out branch based on tha

[openstack-dev] [HEAT] Is there any line length limitation in paste deploy configuration file?

2014-08-08 Thread Baohua Yang
Hi, Recently I have noticed the api-paste. ini file in heat has some very long lines (over the popular 80c). Wondering if there's recommended length limitation on it? Sometime, users have to read the file and change the configuration value, so I think it should be kept readable. Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 08/08/2014 12:12 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: >> My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the >> contributors' activities > > This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go > uncorrected: we (the OpenStack proj

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Piyush Harsh
Dear Eoghan, Thanks for your comments. Although you are correct that rating, charging, and billing policies are commercially sensitive to the operators, still if an operator has an openstack installation, I do not see why the stack could not offer a service that supports ways for the operator to i

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: > Please respond in the usual manner, +1 or concerns. +1, I would be happy to see Ian joining the team. Chmouel ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] "Neutron Ryu" status

2014-08-08 Thread YAMAMOTO Takashi
just an update: the "Neutron Ryu" CI is getting stable now. please let me know if you noticed any problems. thank you. YAMAMOTO Takashi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [openstack-dev] [gerrit] Preparing a patch that has dependency to more than one code under review

2014-08-08 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi Nader, Le 08/08/2014 09:23, Nader Lahouti a écrit : Hi, Is it possible to send a patch for review (i.e. A) on gerrit based on multiple commit under the review (i.e. B and C)? Based on the wiki page to add dependency these command should be used: A->B, A->C (no dependency between B and C) #f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] how to deprecate a plugin

2014-08-08 Thread YAMAMOTO Takashi
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:43 AM, YAMAMOTO Takashi > wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM, YAMAMOTO Takashi >>> wrote: hi, what's the right procedure to deprecate a plugin? we (ryu team) are considering deprecating ryu plugin, in favor of ofagent. probably in K-

[openstack-dev] Further discussions on Cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Piyush Harsh
Dear Andre, I have not been an active user or IRC, but I have just now started using it, I use the handle PH7_0 on irc://rajaniemi.freenode.net ... Tell me the time and date and we can discuss more on cyclops. Cheers, Piyush. ___ Dr. Piyush Harsh, Ph.D. Resear

[openstack-dev] use of compute node as a storage

2014-08-08 Thread shailendra acharya
i made 4 vm 1 controller, 1 network and 2 compute and i want 1 compute to run as a storage so plz help how can i do such ? ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-08 Thread Liyi Meng
Hi John, I have some comments as well. see blow :) _On 6 August 2014 18:54, Jay Pipes wrote: > So, Liyi Meng has an interesting patch up for Nova: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104876 > > 1) We should just deprecate both the options, with a note in the option help > te

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Stephane Albert
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:01:04PM +0200, Piyush Harsh wrote: > Dear All, > > Let me use my first post to this list to introduce Cyclops and initiate a > discussion towards possibility of this platform as a future incubated project > in OpenStack. > > We at Zurich university of Applied Sciences h

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Michael Still wrote: > [...] I think an implied side effect of > the runway system is that nova-drivers would -2 blueprint reviews > which were not occupying a slot. > > (If we start doing more -2's I think we will need to explore how to > not block on someone with -2's taking a vacation. Some sor

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eoghan Glynn wrote: >> On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: >>> My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the >>> contributors' activities >> >> This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go >> uncorrected: we (the OpenStack project as a whole) have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 08/08/2014 11:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Personally I think we just need to get better at communicating the > downstream expectations, so that if we create waste, it's clearly > upstream fault rather than downstream. Currently it's the lack of > communication that makes developers produce mo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-08 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 18:54, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:46 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: >>> In any case, the operative point is that CONF. must >> always be >>> evaluated inside run-time code, never at module load time. >> >> ...unless you call register_opts() safely, which is what I'

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-08 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 19:02, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:41 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: >> ... or arg is an object which defines __nonzero__(), or defines >> __getattr__() and then explodes because of the unexpected lookup of a >> __nonzero__ attribute. Or it's False (no quotes when p

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