Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-01 Thread Adam Lawson
I apologize for my candor but sounds an awful like political candidates stating they understand what their constituents really want. We gotta avoid making claims of fact that are pure personal opinion, especially if our goal is market adoption of OpenStack and especially if we're deeply entrenched

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-01 Thread Adam Lawson
That sounded a bit harsh in retrospect, so my apologies if it's perceived as an uninvited slap on the hand. The topic keeps coming up and it's hard to tell potential consumers over and over the magnitude of engineering investment is improving. Would be great to be able to say that with a

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-01 Thread matt
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm from brooklynite, so as I see it, you couldn't have been more polite if you tried =P I think at the end of it all, OpenStack as a community does not want to own this part of the stack. They've been pretty vocal about that in times past. That being said,