Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-03-02 Thread Ricardo Rocha
Hi Carl. Adding some numbers from CERN to the discussion, we currently have: * ~40 cells * ~185 segments (called clusters in the our doc linked in the etherpad) * ~185*10 subnets, although it's not easy to compute the actual number today in our nova-network setup With the move to neutron (new cel

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-26 Thread Kevin Benton
>Our DHCP concern is because currently the DHCP agent needs to be assigned to a network and then it creates a port for each subnet. The DHCP agent doesn't create a port per subnet. It only creates a port per network and adds extra IPs to that port as extra subnets are added to the network. In the

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-26 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Belmiro Moreira wrote: > Hi, > thanks Carl for info about the DHCP plans. Olá, Belmiro. > Our DHCP concern is because currently the DHCP agent needs to be assigned > to a network and then it creates a port for each subnet. Right, this is a concern for me too. >

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-26 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi, thanks Carl for info about the DHCP plans. Our DHCP concern is because currently the DHCP agent needs to be assigned to a network and then it creates a port for each subnet. In our infrastructure we only consider a network with several hundred subnets. By default the DHCP agent runs in the net

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-25 Thread Sam Morrison
> On 26 Feb 2016, at 9:20 AM, Carl Baldwin wrote: > > (resending with reply-all) > > The routed networks work will include a change to the DHCP scheduler > which will work something like this: > > 1. Neutron subnets will have optional affinity to a segment > 2. DHCP agents will (somewhat indir

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-25 Thread Kris G. Lindgren
To follow up on the relay idea. In our implementation we have looked at trying to enable ip_helper on the switches to forward dhcp to a set of defined neutron dhcp servers. The issue is that this turns the dhcp requests from a broadcast packet to a unicast packet. With the default way neutron

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-25 Thread Carl Baldwin
(resending with reply-all) The routed networks work will include a change to the DHCP scheduler which will work something like this: 1. Neutron subnets will have optional affinity to a segment 2. DHCP agents will (somewhat indirectly) report which segments to which they are attached*. 3. Where to

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells

2016-02-25 Thread Rochelle Grober
There is also a bit of info on cells from the Manchester meetup in the Large Deployment team ether pad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-Large-Deployment-Team I've added the link to the cells etherpad. --Rocky ___ OpenStack-operators mailing l

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-25 Thread Tim Bell
The CERN guys had some concerns on how dhcp was working in a segment environment. I’ll leave them to give details. Tim On 25/02/16 14:53, "Andrew Laski" wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 25, 2016, at 05:01 AM, Tim Bell wrote: >> >> CERN info added.. Feel free to come back for more information if n

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-25 Thread Andrew Laski
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016, at 05:01 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > CERN info added.. Feel free to come back for more information if needed. An additional piece of information we're specifically interested in from all cellsv1 deployments is around the networking control plane setup. Is there a single nova-n

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-25 Thread John Garbutt
On 25 February 2016 at 10:01, Tim Bell wrote: > > CERN info added.. Feel free to come back for more information if needed. > > Tim > On 24/02/16 22:47, "Edgar Magana" wrote: > >>It will be awesome if we can add this doc into the networking guide :-) >> >> >>Edgar >> >>On 2/24/16, 1:42 PM, "Matt

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-25 Thread Tim Bell
CERN info added.. Feel free to come back for more information if needed. Tim On 24/02/16 22:47, "Edgar Magana" wrote: >It will be awesome if we can add this doc into the networking guide :-) > > >Edgar > > > > >On 2/24/16, 1:42 PM, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: > >>The nova and neutron teams ar

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-24 Thread Edgar Magana
It will be awesome if we can add this doc into the networking guide :-) Edgar On 2/24/16, 1:42 PM, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: >The nova and neutron teams are trying to sort out existing deployment >network scenarios for cells v1 so we can try and document some of that >and get an idea if th

[Openstack-operators] [nova][neutron] What are your cells networking use cases?

2016-02-24 Thread Matt Riedemann
The nova and neutron teams are trying to sort out existing deployment network scenarios for cells v1 so we can try and document some of that and get an idea if things change at all with cells v2. Therefore we're asking that deployers running cells please document anything you can in an etherpa