Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-21 Thread Chris Friesen
On 03/20/2017 04:24 PM, Blair Bethwaite wrote: For me an interesting question to know the answer to here would be at what point you have to stop resource sharing to guarantee your performance promises/SLAs (disregarding memory over-provisioning). My gut says that unless you are also doing all th

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-20 Thread Blair Bethwaite
Hi Chris, On 17 Mar. 2017 15:24, "Chris Friesen" wrote: On 03/16/2017 07:06 PM, Blair Bethwaite wrote: Statement: breaks bin packing / have to match flavor dimensions to hardware > dimensions. > Comment: neither of these ring true to me given that most operators tend to > agree that memory is t

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Friesen
On 03/16/2017 07:06 PM, Blair Bethwaite wrote: Statement: breaks bin packing / have to match flavor dimensions to hardware dimensions. Comment: neither of these ring true to me given that most operators tend to agree that memory is there first constraining resource dimension and it is difficult

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-16 Thread Blair Bethwaite
*From:* Adam Lawson [mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2017 5:57 PM > *To:* Jonathan D. Proulx > *Cc:* OpenStack Operators > *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors > > > > One way I know some providers work around this when using OpenStack is by

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-16 Thread Tomáš Vondra
: Jonathan D. Proulx Cc: OpenStack Operators Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors One way I know some providers work around this when using OpenStack is by fronting the VM request with some code in the web server that checks if the requested spec has an existing flavor. if so, use the flavor

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-16 Thread Adam Lawson
One way I know some providers work around this when using OpenStack is by fronting the VM request with some code in the web server that checks if the requested spec has an existing flavor. if so, use the flavor, if not, use an admin account that creates a new flavor and assign use it for that user

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-16 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
I have always hated flavors and so do many of my users. On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:22:48PM -0700, James Downs wrote: :On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:10:00PM +, Fox, Kevin M wrote: :> I think the really short answer is something like: It greatly simplifies scheduling and billing. : :The real answ

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Joe Topjian
>> handle those large ram VM’s? >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Kris Lindgren >> >> Senior Linux Systems Engineer >> >> GoDaddy >> >> >> >> *From: *Matthew Kauf

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Joe Topjian
> GoDaddy > > > > *From: *Matthew Kaufman > *Date: *Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 5:42 PM > *To: *"Fox, Kevin M" > *Cc: *OpenStack Operators > *Subject: *Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors > > > > Screw the short answer -- that is annoying to r

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Mike Lowe
ed to handle those > large ram VM’s? > > ___ > Kris Lindgren > Senior Linux Systems Engineer > GoDaddy > > From: Matthew Kaufman > Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 5:42 PM > To: "Fox, Kevin M&qu

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Kris G. Lindgren
Operators Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors Screw the short answer -- that is annoying to read, and it doesn't simplify BILLING from a CapEx/OpEx perspective, so please - wtf? Anyway, Vladimir - I love your question and have always wanted the same thing. On Wed, Mar 15, 2017

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Matthew Kaufman
ly short answer is something like: It greatly simplifies > scheduling and billing. > > -- > *From:* Vladimir Prokofev [v...@prokofev.me] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:41 PM > *To:* OpenStack Operators > *Subject:* [Openstack-operators] Flavor

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Chris Sevey
Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:10 PM To: Vladimir Prokofev; OpenStack Operators Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors I think the really short answer is something like: It greatly simplifies scheduling and billing. From: Vladimir Prokofev [v...@prokofev.me] Sent:

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread James Downs
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:10:00PM +, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > I think the really short answer is something like: It greatly simplifies > scheduling and billing. The real answer is that once you buy hardware, it's in a fixed radio of CPU/Ram/Disk/IOPS, etc. In order to use the hardware effecti

Re: [Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Fox, Kevin M
I think the really short answer is something like: It greatly simplifies scheduling and billing. From: Vladimir Prokofev [v...@prokofev.me] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:41 PM To: OpenStack Operators Subject: [Openstack-operators] Flavors A question of

[Openstack-operators] Flavors

2017-03-15 Thread Vladimir Prokofev
A question of curiosity - why do we even need flavors? I do realise that we need a way to provide instance configuration, but why use such a rigid construction? Wouldn't it be more flexible to provide instance configuration as a set of parameters(metadata), and if you need some presets - well, use