Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-24 Thread JJ Asghar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/24/15 2:14 PM, David Medberry wrote: > Tim, thanks for pointing out the User Committee. You are the second (or > third) one to mention that to me in this context and is another great > way to influence the direction OpenStack takes (and goes ha

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-24 Thread David Medberry
Tim, thanks for pointing out the User Committee. You are the second (or third) one to mention that to me in this context and is another great way to influence the direction OpenStack takes (and goes hand in hand with this operator's list, the midcycle, and operator's summit meetings.) -d _

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-24 Thread Tim Bell
> -Original Message- > From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org] > Sent: 24 November 2015 17:56 > To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director? > > Edgar Magana wrote: > > Is the Foundatio

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Edgar Magana wrote: > Is the Foundation aware of that? I mean you comment about "It's the > cumulative voting system that is broken” > > Maybe this is a good opportunity for fixing it! Oh sure, it's a well-known issue, which (as far as I know) is periodically discussed by the Board of Directors.

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-24 Thread Edgar Magana
Tierry, Is the Foundation aware of that? I mean you comment about "It's the cumulative voting system that is broken” Maybe this is a good opportunity for fixing it! Edgar On 11/24/15, 3:06 AM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >matt wrote: >> it's a voted position. there just aren't that many oper

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-24 Thread matt
Worth trying for sure. On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > matt wrote: > > it's a voted position. there just aren't that many operators who vote > > compared to devs and other contributors. to say nothing of > > non-contributors who sign up for accounts to vote for their c

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
matt wrote: > it's a voted position. there just aren't that many operators who vote > compared to devs and other contributors. to say nothing of > non-contributors who sign up for accounts to vote for their co-workers. It wouldn't be as much of an issue if we used Condorcet or STV -- I would exp

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-23 Thread JJ Asghar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/23/15 2:06 PM, Edgar Magana wrote: > Yes and Yes and Yes. It is about time to have more operators > representation in the Board. Let me share something with you all based > on my personal experience. Individual Directors for the Board is a ver

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-23 Thread Edgar Magana
mailto:openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director? Yeah, I'd like to see that as well. Joe Tapajian would be my pick. But I don't see that happening. Operators just don't have the voting power the devs do. Unless someone wants

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-23 Thread Subbu Allamaraju
+1. Operator/user community is large enough for such a representation. Can you elaborate on operators lacking the power? > On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:39 AM, matt wrote: > > Yeah, I'd like to see that as well. Joe Tapajian would be my pick. But I > don't see that happening. Operators just don't

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-23 Thread matt
it's a voted position. there just aren't that many operators who vote compared to devs and other contributors. to say nothing of non-contributors who sign up for accounts to vote for their co-workers. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Subbu Allamaraju wrote: > +1. Operator/user community is lar

Re: [Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-23 Thread matt
Yeah, I'd like to see that as well. Joe Tapajian would be my pick. But I don't see that happening. Operators just don't have the voting power the devs do. Unless someone wants to spam their own corp backers for voting support ( not really ethical, though obviously being done ). -Matt On Mon,

[Openstack-operators] Operational Director?

2015-11-23 Thread David Medberry
Hi all, Isn't it time to get an operational director--or rather another/additional operators as directors? I've nominated a few (unnamed here) and you may be interested in nominationg others. Look for the email with subject line: Notice of meeting to elect Individual Directors