Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to opensuse 10.1

2006-07-29 Thread Amr Hamdy
Hello, all Hoping you are doing fine... I like suse very very much ... but I was abit disappointed about 10.1release .. I've faced many problems .. one of them is a very annoying problem.. If I wouldn't let YOU configure itself during installation ... It never works again ... If I let it finish du

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread BandiPat
On Saturday 29 July 2006 13:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers > > these ILLEGAL these days and WILL NOT distribute them.. > > The situation with the nvidia drivers is not quite the same as with > say the madwifi drivers. The nvidia drivers

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 06:19:42PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers > > these ILLEGAL these days and WILL NOT distribute them.. > > The situation with the nvidia drivers is not quite the same as with say > the madwifi drivers. The nvid

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread B . Weber
> Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers > these ILLEGAL these days and WILL NOT distribute them.. The situation with the nvidia drivers is not quite the same as with say the madwifi drivers. The nvidia drivers use GPLed shim as the actual kernel module, which their non-free d

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Janne Karhunen wrote: > > "Most developers of the kernel community consider non-GPL kernel > > modules to be infringing on their copyright. Novell _does respect this > > position_, and _will no longer distribute non-GPL kernel modules_ as > > part of future products." > > >

Re: [opensuse] Network Manager update for 10.1?

2006-07-29 Thread Alexander Antoniades
On 7/28/06, Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are some fixes in the 10.1 codebase which were done for SLED 10, which we likely could release for 10.1 however. That would be greatly appreciated. Despite the problems I had initially, NetworkManager crashing when coming out of suspe

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread J Sloan
Janne Karhunen wrote: > On Saturday 29 July 2006 18:07, Christoph Thiel wrote: > >> "Most developers of the kernel community consider non-GPL kernel modules >> to be infringing on their copyright. Novell _does respect this position_, >> and _will no longer distribute non-GPL kernel modules_ as p

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Saturday 29 July 2006 18:07, Christoph Thiel wrote: > "Most developers of the kernel community consider non-GPL kernel modules > to be infringing on their copyright. Novell _does respect this position_, > and _will no longer distribute non-GPL kernel modules_ as part of future > products." > >

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Janne Karhunen wrote: > > Whoever wants to try, with todays kernel update using ATI and NVIDIA > > commercial drivers should now be possible (again). > > > > Add as ZYPP / YUM source: > > Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers these > ILLEGAL these days

Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to opensuse 10.1

2006-07-29 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Janne Karhunen wrote: > On Tuesday 25 July 2006 08:55, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > > Why not use smart? It's working nicely for me. > > > > Yes..VERY well!! > > Let's not get too exited. It's not SUSE-provided solution and > documention & error handling could be in a be

Re: [opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-29 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Friday 21 July 2006 00:17, Marcus Meissner wrote: > Hi, > > Whoever wants to try, with todays kernel update using ATI and NVIDIA > commercial drivers should now be possible (again). > > Add as ZYPP / YUM source: Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers these ILLEGAL these day

Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to opensuse 10.1

2006-07-29 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 08:55, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > Why not use smart? > > It's working nicely for me. > > Yes..VERY well!! Let's not get too exited. It's not SUSE-provided solution and documention & error handling could be in a better shape (looks that it's rather rare to get a human re

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-29 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 jdd wrote: > Andreas Hanke a écrit : > >> http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_15.jpg >> >> This is not just a statement, it's the official position of Novell, Inc. >> There is now openSUSE and the community can influence some things up to

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-29 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke a écrit : http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_15.jpg This is not just a statement, it's the official position of Novell, Inc. There is now openSUSE and the community can influence some things up to a certain degree, but decisions like this one are (and should be, IMHO