Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-10 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Saturday 11 November 2006 04:50, Robert Lewis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Very sad.  Maybe now we know more about why Reiser > isn't been developing further the filesystem and why SUSE > was wise to switch back to ext3. > Hans Reiser > > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > Jump

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-11 Thread Basil Chupin
Peter Nikolic wrote: On Saturday 11 November 2006 04:50, Robert Lewis wrote: . What is with all this darn HTML formatted crap hey people this is NOT WINDBLOWS cut the HTML scribble and get back tp proper PLAINT text emails Shee .. What I don

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-11 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 10 November 2006 23:02, Basil Chupin wrote: > So what's happened since "we" got migrated? I'm guessing Henne hasn't had time to figure all the new stuff out while migrating all the lists. As I understand it, its new hardware, and a different list server. He's a busy guy. Plus having

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-11 Thread Basil Chupin
John Andersen wrote: On Friday 10 November 2006 23:02, Basil Chupin wrote: So what's happened since "we" got migrated? I'm guessing Henne hasn't had time to figure all the new stuff out while migrating all the lists. As I understand it, its new hardware, and a different list server. He's

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-11 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2006-11-11 01:46, Peter Nikolic wrote: > > > What is with all this darn HTML formatted crap hey people this is NOT > WINDBLOWS cut the HTML scribble and get back tp proper PLAINT text > emails Shee .. Your reply reminds me of all the times I have scrolled th

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 20:50 -0800, Robert Lewis wrote: > Very sad.  Maybe now we know more about why Reiser > isn't been developing further the filesystem and why SUSE > was wise to switch back to ext3. |> [html plus two images ] All that is ol

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-13 Thread Carl William Spitzer IV
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 23:14 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > On Friday 10 November 2006 23:02, Basil Chupin wrote: > > So what's happened since "we" got migrated? > > I'm guessing Henne hasn't had time to figure all the > new stuff out while migrating all the lists. > > As I understand it, its new

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Van Lone
On 11/13/06, Carl William Spitzer IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW why would Suse drop Reiser just because the inventor is in jail. Can't development continue without him? from what I understand the community was very small, and very tightly controlled by his fanatical approach and demands.

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Van Lone
On 11/11/06, Peter Nikolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is with all this darn HTML formatted crap hey people this is NOT WINDBLOWS cut the HTML scribble and get back tp proper PLAINT text emails Shee .. and how about trimming the crap from replies before you

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-13 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 13 November 2006 10:19, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote: > > BTW why would Suse drop Reiser just because the inventor is in jail. > Can't development continue without him? When it was announced, there were other reasons given, and that was before he was in jail. There was a huge long th

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-13 Thread James Knott
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 23:14 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > >> On Friday 10 November 2006 23:02, Basil Chupin wrote: >> >>> So what's happened since "we" got migrated? >>> >> I'm guessing Henne hasn't had time to figure all the >> new stuff out while

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Monday 13 November 2006 20:09, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 11/11/06, Peter Nikolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What is with all this darn HTML formatted crap hey people this is NOT > > WINDBLOWS cut the HTML scribble and get back tp proper PLAINT text > > emails Sh

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 11:19:04AM -0800, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 23:14 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > > On Friday 10 November 2006 23:02, Basil Chupin wrote: > > > So what's happened since "we" got migrated? > > > > I'm guessing Henne hasn't had time to figure all t

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 04:37:23AM -0500, Mark Hounschell wrote: > As I understand it reiser-3 was abandoned by Hans in so he could work on > reiser-4 only. For him, there was no return. All bug fixes would only be > applied > to reiser-4. The kernel people completely rejected the way reiser-4 was

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Mark Hounschell
John Andersen wrote: > On Tuesday 14 November 2006 00:37, Mark Hounschell wrote: >> Reiser-3 will most likely be removed at >> some time because no one is maintaining the code. > > Does it need a lot of maintenance? Lots of bugs stacking up? > There have been bug fixes to reiser-3 that only we

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Luciano Mannucci
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:23:05 +0100 Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We only changed the installer _default_. You can of course > still select it in the istnaller. So far, so good. Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines that have been installed with ReiserFs?

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 00:37, Mark Hounschell wrote: > Reiser-3 will most likely be removed at > some time because no one is maintaining the code. Does it need a lot of maintenance? Lots of bugs stacking up? Its too bad, because it sure had a lot of promise, and considering he wrote most o

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Mark Hounschell
As I understand it reiser-3 was abandoned by Hans in so he could work on reiser-4 only. For him, there was no return. All bug fixes would only be applied to reiser-4. The kernel people completely rejected the way reiser-4 was done and Hans was not going to change it to conform to what the kernel pe

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Anders Johansson
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:02, Mark Hounschell wrote: > Also, when a kernel change happens that > requires a change to the reiser code as well, who is going to make that > change? I think you misunderstand the benefits of having your module in the mainline tree: you don't have to do all the w

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Luciano Mannucci
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:25:00 +0100 Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > > that have been installed with ReiserFs? > > I did it with one and it was not precisely straightforward > > Just a simple HowTo would be helpf

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Anders Johansson
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 10:51, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > So far, so good. > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > that have been installed with ReiserFs? > I did it with one and it was not precisely straightforward > Just a simple HowTo would be helpfull enough

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Matthew Stringer
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 09:51, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > that have been installed with ReiserFs? > I did it with one and it was not precisely straightforward > Just a simple HowTo would be helpfull enough. > > Cheers, > >

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Mark Hounschell
Anders Johansson wrote: > On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:02, Mark Hounschell wrote: >> Also, when a kernel change happens that >> requires a change to the reiser code as well, who is going to make that >> change? > > I think you misunderstand the benefits of having your module in the mainline > t

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread jdd
Anders Johansson a écrit : On Tuesday 14 November 2006 10:51, Luciano Mannucci wrote: So far, so good. Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines that have been installed with ReiserFs? I did it with one and it was not precisely straightforward Just a simple HowTo woul

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Luciano Mannucci
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:17:17 + Matthew Stringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > > that have been installed with ReiserFs? > > > Why would you want to do that? Just because 10.2 uses EXT3 as the default FS > doesn't mean your

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread JB
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 03:50, John Andersen wrote: > On Tuesday 14 November 2006 00:37, Mark Hounschell wrote: > > Reiser-3 will most likely be removed at > > some time because no one is maintaining the code. > > Does it need a lot of maintenance? Lots of bugs stacking up? > > Its too bad,

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 02:40, jdd wrote: > better wait any hardware change and use ext3 on new > formatted partition. > > for now there no instruction from openSUSE/Novell to make a > switch, so we can hope a very long maintenance cycle > > jdd Exactly: IINBDFI. If its Not Broke, Don't Fix i

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Thomas Hertweck
John Andersen wrote: > [...] > > New installs should go to ext3, but there is no reason > to change anything. Well, I think there are better FS available than ext3. It might be a good 'conservative' choice though. CU, Th. - To

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread houghi
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 02:23:35PM +0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Well, if hou have a bunch of machines that you maintain and you add > a new one once every couple of months, you may wish (just wish :) to > deal with the same kind of root filesystem on every computer. Well, I asume the root file

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:53, Thomas Hertweck wrote: > John Andersen wrote: > > [...] > > > > New installs should go to ext3, but there is no reason > > to change anything. > > Well, I think there are better FS available than ext3. It might be a > good 'conservative' choice though. > What wou

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:55, Kai Ponte wrote: > What would the better choice(s) be? I've been running Reiser since > installing 9.1, and don't really know anything different. > > I've read about EXT2/3 and JFS and XFS, but don't know which would be > better or worse than what I've got now run

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Kai Ponte wrote: > [...] > > What would the better choice(s) be? I've been running Reiser since installing > 9.1, and don't really know anything different. > > I've read about EXT2/3 and JFS and XFS, but don't know which would be better > or worse than what I've got now running on my general

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2006-11-14 04:37, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > Ext3 is not loaded in the kernel at boot time. Then edit INITRD_MODULES in /etc/sysconfig/kernel/ and run mkinitrd. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Carl William Spitzer IV
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 14:11 -0600, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 11/13/06, Carl William Spitzer IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > BTW why would Suse drop Reiser just because the inventor is in jail. > > Can't development continue without him? > > from what I understand the community was very s

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Bryan S. Tyson
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 04:51, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > that have been installed with ReiserFs? Here is how I made the switch: 1. Backup data 2. mkfs.ext3 3. Restore data Bryan *** Power

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-14 Thread Doug McGarrett
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 23:04, Bryan S. Tyson wrote: > On Tuesday 14 November 2006 04:51, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > > that have been installed with ReiserFs? > > Here is how I made the switch: > > 1. Backup data > 2. mkfs.ext

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-15 Thread Luciano Mannucci
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:04:11 -0500 "Bryan S. Tyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > > that have been installed with ReiserFs? > > Here is how I made the switch: > > 1. Backup data > 2. mkfs.ext3 > 3. Restore data You're lucky. M

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-15 Thread jdd
Luciano Mannucci a écrit : My mileage has been a bit longer: mine is even different :-) I noticed that most of the time I accumulate libraries from tested software and my disk grow... making a full backup is extremely long and I have no support big enough to make it really reliable (last t

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-15 Thread Mike McMullin
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 14:55 +0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:04:11 -0500 > "Bryan S. Tyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Would'nt it be nice to have a path to switch to ext3 the machines > > > that have been installed with ReiserFs? > > > > Here is how I made the swit

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-15 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2006-11-15 at 17:54 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: > This has me curious about one thing. Would it not be possible to > create the required root partition and rsync the data back onto it, from > a removable media or mounted .iso image?

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-16 Thread Mike McMullin
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 01:47 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Wednesday 2006-11-15 at 17:54 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: > > > This has me curious about one thing. Would it not be possible to > > create the required root partition and rsync

Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2006-11-16 at 18:55 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: > > > This has me curious about one thing. Would it not be possible to > > > create the required root partition and rsync the data back onto it, from > > > a removable media or mounted .