-----Original Message-----
From: Fred A. Miller
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:46 PM
To: opensuse
Subject: [opensuse] May get some BAD PRESS over this!!

I am on the phone now with a "code jockey" friend of mine in MN, who does ALL
of his .Net teaching all over the Country on a laptop with SUSE with VMWare.
With my encouragement, he did a clean install with 10.3 64-bit. He called with
the SAME problem I had/have today with a clean 32-bit install - somehow during
the install, the password encryption (I'm blaming PAM for this one) gets
really messed up and you don't have root NOR the user password any longer.

Now, it's still "there" but the system won't let you login. I called Patrick
Shanahan wondering if he'd run into this before. I had a long time ago with
IBM's unix, but had forgotten all about "shadow." Patrick indicated that I
should remove the passwords "aflicted" and that the system would ask for a new
password(s). I'll know tomorrow night if that works.

It didn't with my buddy from MN tonight, but he has a fingerprint reader on
his new laptop and that did "save his bacon". 10.3 wouldn't accept a new
password, but the fingerprint reader did recognize the image and he was
allowed on the box.

I don't know how wide spread this problem is, but we sure don't need a
reviewer from ZDNet or elsewhere having the same problem!!

Fred

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Fred,

        I think I ran into this problem with dvd install of 10.3. I have done
2 prior NFS installs before that and I did NOT have the problem. What happened
was that late during install, after entering the root password and setting up
a user, the installer crashed resulting in a 'hard-lockup'. A reboot brought
up the installer at the point "before" setting of the root password and
informed me that "some data may have to be entered again." After reentering
the root password, which the install accepted, I went to add the users. The
install would not let me add the users again saying that there was 'already' a
user with the same name in the system.

        I left the username blank and clicked through the warning about the
blank user being a bad idea except in certain instances. The installer crashed
again. This time the crash occurred after the "Release Notes" were shown.
After a second hard restart, I was thankfully far enough through the install
that it allowed a normal boot, with a good root password so I could clean up
the user issue.

        The only remaining part of the install at the last crash was to
confirm 'hardware configuration'. I don't know why the NFS installs worked
fine with the dvd crashed. The installer verified the media, so I didn't
expect any problems. I'm just glad I was able to come through with a working
root password.

        And, for all those inquiring minds out there, the NFS INSTALL went
faster than the DVD Install! Also, adding all package repositories at the
beginning of install will pull in all current updates for the packages you
select. This could account for some of the time differences. With the NFS
install I added only oss and non-oss repositories. With the dvd install, I
added all the repositories.

        I don't know if this was exactly your problem, but is sure seemed
curiously similar.


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