Hello, Am Montag, 7. September 2020, 10:57:28 CEST schrieb ddemaio: > On 9/6/20 8:02 PM, Christian Boltz wrote: > > Am Freitag, 4. September 2020, 12:19:30 CEST schrieb ddemaio: > >> On 9/4/20 12:05 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: > >>> Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2020 schrieb Christian Boltz: ... > >> I looked at the Matomo out of curiosity to see the interest these > >> type of articles generate. Both this and the previous one appear > >> to generate a lot more interest than normal, so I believe we > >> should offer some option here. > > > > Can you please define "more interest than normal"? Which articles > > did > > you look at for comparison? And what is "a lot more"? > > (Maybe you can provide the numbers for the last 10 or 20 articles?) > > It is rather difficult to compare because of the time line of the > releases, but taking the numbers from July 1 period, you'll see: > Rise of TW - 600 > Ritchie-CLI - 734(revert caused a problem and there are two) > Alpha Jump - 1084 > TW Apache Wireshark, etc - 1000 > oSLO Talks Accepted - 297 > Partiicpate in Hacktoberfest - 367 > TW Kernel 5.8 - 493 > Prototype brings Leap, SLE Closer - 684 > TW GCC 10.2 - 367 > Leap Retro - 445 > Install Party - 338 > oneAPI Compatibility - 810
I'd have expected higher numbers for all articles, but that might be caused by people reading news.o.o via RSS or planet.o.o, and also by people with ad and tracking blockers or "do not track" set in the browser. All of these things make mamato "blind". And - to add another guess - maybe the numbers for oneAPI and Ritchie- CLI were more caused by "huh, never heard that name, what's this and why is it on news.o.o?" than by people who might actually be interested in them. At least for me, I can tell you that it was like that - I never heard about them before, and will probably never use them. (Actually I have to admit that I already forgot what they do.) But as I already said: > > Hehe, you know the saying "don't trust statistics you didn't fake > > yourself?" ;-) ;-) ... > > And regarding the disclaimer about home repo security - we'll get > > articles that say "look, we are presenting this great package - but > > don't install it because it's in a completely insecure repo". > > Am I the only one who thinks that this will give a bad public > > impression of (at least) the overall article? > > I felt somewhat similar about a disclaimer, but disclaimers do serve a > purpose. Well, yes. But then - shouldn't that simply mean that an article which needs such a disclaimer is not suitable for news.o.o? > >> Criteria 3 - Article informs readers of the efforts of an > >> open-source > >> project/s and how they relate explicitly to the openSUSE Project, > >> its > >> community and users. > >> > >> Criteria 4 - Is an official package in the distribution, an > >> official > >> openSUSE distribution or a project within the openSUSE Project. > >> > >> Criteria 5 - Provides a "how to use" or "tutorial" about on an > >> official package within the openSUSE distribution. ... > > To sum it up: > > - I'm not a fan of turning news.o.o into a magazine > > - If you really want to do that, please ask a wider audience for > > their opinion, for example on opensuse-project > > - The Criteria will need quite some improvements to make them > > troll-proof ;-) > > Seeing that this doesn't appear to be going down a path for criteria, > how about we switch it and express it that if your article would meet > criteria 1, 2, etc, we recommend to use another avenue (i.e. - mailing > lists, planet, others) rather than use news.o.o. Agreed. (BTW: Which criteria did you mean with "etc"?) > Criteria 3 and 5 could be considered acceptable for news.o.o. I still don't like this idea, for the reasons explained in my previous mails. And if you still really want to turn news.o.o into a magazine, I'd recommend to make Criteria 4 a hard condition. Regards, Christian Boltz -- randomlink against caching is now murphyproof. [Ratti in fontlinge-cvs] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
