Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-31 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Tuesday 31 August 2010 00:30:02 Helen wrote: > > Don't count on that. SUSE is the corporate brand. It is owned by Novell and > > will continue to be. It is a strong brand and we're lucky to be allowed to > > connect to it through adding 'open' in front. Besides, I personally like > > the 'ope

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-30 Thread Helen
> Don't count on that. SUSE is the corporate brand. It is owned by Novell and > will continue to be. It is a strong brand and we're lucky to be allowed to > connect to it through adding 'open' in front. Besides, I personally like the > 'open' part. Name change - you can discuss as long as you wa

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-30 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Tuesday 24 August 2010 00:32:01 Graham Lauder wrote: > On Monday 23 Aug 2010 10:16:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 August 2010 13:19:23 Graham Lauder wrote: > > > The principle job of marketing is to create "Brand Awareness", it could > > > in fact be argued that it is it's only funct

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-25 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 05:31:53 Nelson Marques wrote: > > Without current data to support those claims and future data to evaluate > and correct anything, I don't believe that the risk/benefit equation is > very attractive. I've quoted a bit out of another of your posts because it has relev

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Monday 23 Aug 2010 10:16:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On Tuesday 17 August 2010 13:19:23 Graham Lauder wrote: > > The principle job of marketing is to create "Brand Awareness", it could > > in fact be argued that it is it's only function and anything else that a > > marketing team does, goes back

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 05:31:53 Nelson Marques wrote: Hi Nelson, My apologies that this took so long to answer, other things demanded my attention and I wanted to give this reply the time it deserves. > On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 23:19 +1200, Graham Lauder wrote: > > The principle job of marketing

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-22 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Tuesday 17 August 2010 13:19:23 Graham Lauder wrote: > The principle job of marketing is to create "Brand Awareness", it could in > fact be argued that it is it's only function and anything else that a > marketing team does, goes back to that simple statement. > Remember that this not about

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-18 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 19 Aug 2010 00:48:28 Rémy Marquis wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 03:23:11 Jean-Daniel Dodin wrote: > >> Le 17/08/2010 15:12, Graham Lauder a écrit : > >> > >> Understand me: I don't say we don't have to make our logo/brandi

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-18 Thread Rémy Marquis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 03:23:11 Jean-Daniel Dodin wrote: >> Le 17/08/2010 15:12, Graham Lauder a écrit : >> >> Understand me: I don't say we don't have to make our logo/branding >> better! But It looks like you didn't follow all the SuSE hi

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 05:12:07 Nelson Marques wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 01:12 +1200, Graham Lauder wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 00:13:25 Jean-Daniel Dodin wrote: > > > Le 17/08/2010 13:19, Graham Lauder a écrit : > > > > Right now we are suboptimal on all fronts. > > > > > > I don't

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 03:23:11 Jean-Daniel Dodin wrote: > Le 17/08/2010 15:12, Graham Lauder a écrit : > > Our market penetration is below what it should be considering the > > corporate backing we have, the maturity of the project and the quality > > of the product. > > it's the result of hist

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Nelson Marques
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 15:59 +0200, S.Kemter wrote: > Hello, > > I could paste here a lot of companys like Dresdner Bank, Land Rover, > Skoda, British Petroleum, 7up, Lacoste, Austin Martin, Starbucks and so > on to negative ur theory about green as color for a product/company. British Petroleum

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Nelson Marques
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 23:19 +1200, Graham Lauder wrote: > The principle job of marketing is to create "Brand Awareness", it could in > fact be argued that it is it's only function and anything else that a > marketing team does, goes back to that simple statement. > > Brand awareness is driven by

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Nelson Marques
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 01:12 +1200, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 00:13:25 Jean-Daniel Dodin wrote: > > Le 17/08/2010 13:19, Graham Lauder a écrit : > > > Right now we are suboptimal on all fronts. > > > > I don't think so > > Our market penetration is below what it should be con

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Jean-Daniel Dodin
Le 17/08/2010 15:12, Graham Lauder a écrit : > Our market penetration is below what it should be considering the corporate > backing we have, the maturity of the project and the quality of the product. it's the result of history, and on this brand have little to do. Understand me: I don't say

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 01:59:51 S.Kemter wrote: > Hello, > > I could paste here a lot of companys like Dresdner Bank, Land Rover, > Skoda, British Petroleum, 7up, Lacoste, Austin Martin, Starbucks and so > on to negative ur theory about green as color for a product/company. And good for them,

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread S.Kemter
Hello, I could paste here a lot of companys like Dresdner Bank, Land Rover, Skoda, British Petroleum, 7up, Lacoste, Austin Martin, Starbucks and so on to negative ur theory about green as color for a product/company. But on the end its to much work, to remind u to be a little bit more carefully.

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 18 Aug 2010 00:13:25 Jean-Daniel Dodin wrote: > Le 17/08/2010 13:19, Graham Lauder a écrit : > > Right now we are suboptimal on all fronts. > > I don't think so Our market penetration is below what it should be considering the corporate backing we have, the maturity of the project a

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Jean-Daniel Dodin
Le 17/08/2010 13:19, Graham Lauder a écrit : > Right now we are suboptimal on all fronts. I don't think so > > Our logo doesn't convey the right feelings and it's not particularly > attractive either in style or in colour. not so bad > > The two open source brands that have the highest awar

[opensuse-marketing] Brand Awareness and associated Voodoo

2010-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
The principle job of marketing is to create "Brand Awareness", it could in fact be argued that it is it's only function and anything else that a marketing team does, goes back to that simple statement. Brand awareness is driven by several factors Visibility Attractiveness Ubiquitousness Not s