Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-07 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Monday 07 August 2006 13:15, houghi wrote: Hi, > On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 12:56:09PM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: > > this is due to the fact that we want to be compatbile to the > > MediaWiki styles. At the moment we are loading the original > > Monobook styles and overwrite parts of them a

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-07 Thread houghi
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 12:56:09PM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: > this is due to the fact that we want to be compatbile to the MediaWiki > styles. At the moment we are loading the original Monobook styles and > overwrite parts of them afterwards with customized styles. > In regards of performa

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-07 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Friday 04 August 2006 00:54, houghi wrote: Hi, > Now this all does not mean that there can not be any speed > improvement: http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ > > A nice page that shows how fast things download and also pinpoints > the main problem to the css files that are wa

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread jdd
houghi a écrit : Then where is the 2MB coming from? I used wget to have a local copy of the fr site (not to be done each day :-) and looked at properties in konqueror but I didn't do that on this purpose but used an old verison, may be a little bigger now. but with a 20kB medium size for

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread jdd
houghi a écrit : Now this all does not mean that there can not be any speed improvement: http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ thanks for this URL, very interesting for opensuse.org: Total HTTP Requests:27 Total Size: 97912 bytes Object Size Totals Object type Size

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread houghi
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:45:49PM +0200, jdd wrote: > however I effectively tried to read the wiki from this 56k > line and was unable to do so. I have yet to investigate > where is the bottleneck. the html given by mediawiki is > quite awfull, and page size (around 15-20 kbytes) are pretty >

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread houghi
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:02:28PM +0200, jdd wrote: > Marcus Rueckert a écrit : > >[snip] > >1. the wiki is doing on disk caching already and delivers that for > >anonymous user. > >2. the content size would be the same you still need to download the > >whole site. > > I don't say to make it avai

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread jdd
houghi a écrit : This even makes it less clear why my comment would be useless. It looks as if you are also not in favour of it. probably he though the answer was so obvious that your comment was too much :-() I know php gives html so most wiki users read html pages directly from the cache

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread houghi
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:14:31PM +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > On 2006-08-03 15:08:06 +0200, houghi wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 02:47:19PM +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > > > On 2006-08-03 13:58:05 +0200, houghi wrote: > > > > If it is not dynamic and up to date like openSUSE is, I am ag

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-08-03 15:08:06 +0200, houghi wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 02:47:19PM +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > > On 2006-08-03 13:58:05 +0200, houghi wrote: > > > If it is not dynamic and up to date like openSUSE is, I am against it. > > > > omg houghi. what an useless commment. > > Why? h

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread houghi
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 02:47:19PM +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > On 2006-08-03 13:58:05 +0200, houghi wrote: > > If it is not dynamic and up to date like openSUSE is, I am against it. > > omg houghi. what an useless commment. Why? -- houghi Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread jdd
Marcus Rueckert a écrit : [snip] 1. the wiki is doing on disk caching already and delivers that for anonymous user. 2. the content size would be the same you still need to download the whole site. I don't say to make it available in zip form are there here 56k modem users that can confirm the

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-08-03 13:58:05 +0200, houghi wrote: > If it is not dynamic and up to date like openSUSE is, I am against it. omg houghi. what an useless commment. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread houghi
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:36:10PM +0200, jdd wrote: > this could be quite simple to do and appreciated by many users Till now you are the only user who is asking for this. 2MB for a website is a LOT more then I would want to download. What you are talking about is to have the content available of

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread Marcus Rueckert
[snip] 1. the wiki is doing on disk caching already and delivers that for anonymous user. 2. the content size would be the same you still need to download the whole site. 3. check the cache settings of your browser. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is g

Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread jdd
jdd a écrit : For example I have a wget generated copy of the french wiki, only 2Mb in size! by the way, the first distribution testing for braille tablets could also have a version for visually disabled (w3m compliant), but there wget is not so good. I think they are in the mediawiki softw

[opensuse-wiki] openSUSE web site for low end network

2006-08-03 Thread jdd
If you follow the various openSUSE mailing lists, you may know I use to advocate we must take into account the so many low end harware users. This is not only for helping the poors, but also because I'm very confident than the coutries that have such problem today will be in the first place i