Hello,
after having had fun with flon https://github.com/flon-io/ I had to build a
workflow system for a customer and I went back to Ruby and started building
flor https://github.com/floraison/flor
The first iteration of the customer's system integrating flor went into
production last week. (On
This looks nice: https://github.com/chaps-io/gush
Have a nice day,
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it's been one year since ruote development stopped.
This email to tell you that its successor [almost] lives on
at https://operati.ca
Actually, it lives on at http://flon.io but operati.ca will be the service
we will sell to make flon live.
We gathered some capital and built a company
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 08:08:20AM -0700, Gaël Destrem wrote:
We are working on a workflow using Ruote. To begin, thank you very much for
this project that helps us a lot :)
We had some evolutions to do this week and i wasn't able to access to the
website http://ruote.rubyforge.org/
Is
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 03:44:34AM -0700, Dan Kilman wrote:
(...)
One question to help clarifying things. Why are we seeing a non linear
growth in execution time with these wide concurrent iterators?
Hello Dan,
I can't remember exactly. It's mostly a matter of do a small amount of work
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 02:20:16AM -0700, Dan Kilman wrote:
I am using ruote as the workflow engine for cloudify, the opensource cloud
orchestration system (https://github.com/cloudify-cosmo/cloudify-manager)
We have recently started using ruote to provision larger pools of cloud
(...)
Is
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 01:02:30PM -0700, ypz wrote:
Neither of above two states tells me if the worker is currently
busy/processing a message. Is there a way to determine if my worker is
doing a step or do we need to introduce a new worker state ?
Hello,
by doing a step, do you mean has
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 03:44:55PM -0700, Yiping Zhang wrote:
Assuming participant's do_not_thread() returns false, worker instance
would run above concurrent sample workflow in two new threads, correct ? In
this situation, going back to my original question, since I want to restart
worker
2014-04-16 9:26 GMT+09:00 Yiping Zhang yiping4...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM, John Mettraux jmettr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 03:44:55PM -0700, Yiping Zhang wrote:
Assuming participant's do_not_thread() returns false, worker instance
would run above
2014-04-15 7:21 GMT+09:00 ypz yiping4...@gmail.com:
(...)
Now, suppose the administrator (a real human) has decided, for whatever
reasons, that he does not want to wait for alpha step to finish, he wants
the process to proceed to next (bravo) step.
Can this be done? If so, how ?
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:41:59PM -0800, Matthew York wrote:
So some strangeness today:
I have a bit of process def that has this:
sequence :unless = '$f:machine.remote_id' do
I've encountered a scenario where this comparison fails - from my logs I
see a dump of f:machine that does
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 03:02:35PM -0800, Matthew York wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply - I added some more detailed info here:
https://gist.github.com/stackdump/217b2c87f62540fa4807
I didn't include the process that logs f:machine before the sequence, but
you can see the log entry just
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 08:29:16AM +0900, John Mettraux wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 03:02:35PM -0800, Matthew York wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply - I added some more detailed info here:
https://gist.github.com/stackdump/217b2c87f62540fa4807
I didn't include the process that logs
On Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:56:21 PM UTC-8, Matthew York wrote:
We've been using the latest version of ruote w/ ruote-mon using 2 workers
for about 6 months now.
Over time as our process definitions have become more complex and longer
running they have also become less reliable.
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 02:39:07PM -0800, Matthew York wrote:
(...)
goal was to provide some redundancy.
The processes queuing up work for ruote are behind activeMQ, so I suppose
there is still redundancy even if I end up splitting the 2 workers to use
separate storage.
Rather than
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 08:30:41AM -0800, Idan Moyal wrote:
Is it possible to retry a participant on error infinite number of times
every x seconds?
Hello Idan,
not really the infinity, not even close:
```
sequence do
set :max = 1073741823
set :x = 12 # seconds
toto :on_error
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 02:58:20AM -0800, Kiran Patil wrote:
How about using https://github.com/geekq/workflow ?
Hello Kiran,
it's a state machine library, not a workflow engine library.
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:33:49PM -0800, Shubham Bansal wrote:
Hi John - Thanks for the awesome work on ruote. I understand that you are
trying to scale down Ruote, but can you please move the documentation out
of RubyForge
sorry that's a limitation of the is [not] set, is [not] empty set of
tools. I've always meant to go for something better but haven't found the
time. They're meant to be used standalone (not with an or or an and).
I guess the nested way is OK.
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:15:06AM -0800, Idan Moyal wrote:
Good work!
Would really love to see a Python version of Ruote :/
There's a half a dozen Python people on this list. One of you should start
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management tools and workflow engines as the ugly things Stonepath is
supposed to save the world from.
To bring back the thread in the line set by the OP, I'd say, Stonepath is not
an alternative to ruote, because Stonepath is a methodology while ruote is a
workflow engine.
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Please let us know what are the best alternatives for ruote.
You could use JRuby and jBPM http://www.jboss.org/jbpm or Activiti
http://www.activiti.org/
I am not able to tell you what is the best alternative.
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please?
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On Nov 15, 2013 11:27 PM, John Mettraux jmettr...@gmail.com wrote:
Ruote 3.0, if I manage to find the time to build it, will probably not
be a
Ruby project, but it should be easily accessible, as a service, from a
Ruby
that this project is active, when
it's barely maintained.
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On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 02:22:58PM -0500, Danny Fullerton wrote:
Hello,
Hello Danny,
thanks for your help these days.
I can't help but wonder how this would change anything. Ruote's users
gravitates around Ruby so I don't see how changing the language of
version 3 would fix this. Better
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:13:16PM -0800, Damon Torgerson wrote:
As one of the how do I integrate this with Rails folks, I really
appreciate all of your efforts John. If there is a way that I can help with
taking examples off of your plate as per Danny's suggestion, I'd like to
help. I
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:45:55PM -0800, Farrel Lifson wrote:
On Saturday, 16 November 2013 10:26:07 UTC+2, John Mettraux wrote:
I also thought that going for Ruby would allow people helping build the
system, but no, it didn't, so I'm free to build it in any language I like.
What's
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 08:28:38PM -0200, Gerente de Sistemas wrote:
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using verbs for subprocesses and computer
participants and nouns for human participants (persons, roles, etc...).
It really depends, and best practices are for vendor slides.
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looking at some of them if you'd like
the help...
Well, most of them require understanding how the thing runs. That'd probably
end up in me having to help you help me.
I think it's better if there are no new projects using ruote.
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What version of ruote are you using ?
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Thanks; I am using ruote (2.3.0.2).
Give me one or two days. I'll fix that.
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for your observe and react scenario (it's not OK for hey, I want all
observers to see the whole movie scenarii).
(sorry, mostly a reminder for making the email thread more complete for
future readers).
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in the rescue handler, and
since it happens in the dispatch thread it is silently happening (and the
flow stalls).
I need to make sure the exception gets reported:
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Made sure the error got to the fallback error handler.
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I'm still digesting your email, but I have a quick question: which Ruby
version on which platform?
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This is interesting as well: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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What would happen to the sub process if the parent workflow ends?
The sub process should go on.
and what if calling dashboard.wait_for with the wfid?
wait_for will return when the parent workflow terminates.
But please remember
end
```
Perhaps you prefer to use:
```ruby
Ruote.define do
engine_x :pdef = 'do_this_other_thing'
engine_self :pdef = 'do_that_other_thing'
end
```
In that case, tell me and I'll add a way to pass an existing storage when
registering an engine participant.
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participant A. The reserve/owner thinggies came afterward. Since they got
introduced, you're the first to request such a method. I guess it would be
simple to add it.
So your best practice question boils down to please add a
list_workitem_whose_owner_is_nil request?
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, the workers compete to get tasks (msgs documents) and perform them.
There is no mechanism for priority/preference.
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But that's a guideline, not a law.
Look and play with the Dashboard methods to inspect processes and their
expressions.
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whatever workitem in queue admin and proceeds them...
Maybe you want process A to launch process B and wait for B's answer...
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-applies or proceeds.
I am a naughty boy and I let the external force update my workitems from
outside the process (yes; I know this may be seen as evil)
This is the vanilla use case, evil vanilla? ;-)
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OK, I went on with that issue.
https://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-sequel/commit/3f1f8b4ca1212c9e60b1cfe336cf9c9731bdb0f3
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I'd somehow recommend using Ruote::Observer instead of
Ruote::ProcessObserver. it's closer to the metal.
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, the application process is over, it is
eventually charged to the applicant.
Now, what is wrong with my explanation?
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the most developer-friendly thing to do (it was the behavior I expected).
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I'm for your solution, a create_if_missing that defaults to true.
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, maybe create_if_missing = true is better than re_create
= false, the default would be create_if_missing = false.
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```ruby
citerator on: '$f:deployments', to: deployment
do_deployment counter: '$v:ii'
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[at] the sequence, passing a new tree
of
```ruby
sequence do
bravo :timeout = '2d'
charly
end
```
and the desired workitem, to reach back bravo.
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also for terminated processes, that
are kept in a history storage?
No, sorry, it's not possible. The expressions/errors/workitems of terminated
processes are all gone, it's not possible to build a ProcessStatus out of
nothing.
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:
```ruby
admin :timers = -1d: notice, -12h: urgent, 10d: timeout
```
(the last one is the reference).
But then we still have to be able to express your ranges and frequencies...
I want to sleep one more night on it. What do you think?
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/2h: important, 18h-22h/1h: urgent, ' +
'22h-24h/30m: escalation'
```
It'd follow the current {time stuff}: {participant|subprocess|action}.
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would be help vampires as well and that I somehow avoided them, happily.
(...)
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sorry for getting almost personal. I like the way you answered.
Please accept my apologies and feel free to ask any question you like, I'll
help you the best I can.
Thanks for the lesson!
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it doesn't use.
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* http://www.ruby-lang.org/
* http://rubyonrails.org/
* http://guides.rubyonrails.org/
* http://ruote.rubyforge.org/
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ruote-sequel:
(...)
Hello,
please fill a detailed issue report at:
https://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-sequel
Here is a good document about how to report issues:
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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:36:08AM -0700, emc_lab wrote:
Thanks for the long answer. Well there are a lots of information there and
we probably need to spend sometime time to understand it inside and out.
I am an average programmer (maybe a little better than average) and has
spent last
://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-sequel/issues/9
In fact it was already fixed by Iuri Gagnidze.
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have the impression they are accessing the same set of resources and that may
induce a synchronization cost...
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it's really simple.
You have to tell create_table that you want to use ruote_docs:
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is added to the
rails app (with rails engines).
No, it's not possible. A workflow instance is limited to one ruote engine.
It's OK for a workflow instance to launch other workflow instances in
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answer to Q#12, the answer seems to be yes.
Hello,
if all the Rails engines in the Rails webapp share the same ruote engine,
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# ...
end
# ...
end
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The error says undefined method `create_table!' for nil:NilClass
(NoMethodError).
That means sequel is nil.
You are passing nil in $sequel.
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ProcessStatus (used by ruote-kit) will give you that.
5. Ability to tag process instances and search/query based on those tags.
5. I'll leave this to John.
It's possible, but not out of the box. It might be not very efficient.
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get hairy.
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This example shows a main process launching an independent (:forget = true)
subprocess every minute.
https://gist.github.com/jmettraux/5785570
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the workitems as they
were right when the participant got applied (before dispatchment), they're
probably still flagged with the fei of the parent expression.
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end
resource1 :action = 'resume'
resource2 :action = 'resume'
error :re = '$f:err'
end
end
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The error gets placed in the err workitem field and raised later on.
Not sure it will help, but it might interest someone in the mailing list.
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://github.com/jmettraux/ruote/issues/80
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 01:59:29PM -0700, Idan Moyal wrote:
Thanks!
It should be fixed now:
https://github.com/jmettraux/ruote/commit/5ace3d6c
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It shows a web application talking to ruote and then displaying results:
https://github.com/kennethkalmer/ruote-kit/tree/master/lib/ruote-kit/views
Sorry, no fancy shortcut.
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That re_apply could help, I have the impression your workflow instances are
stuck in 5-10 well known places and thus you'd have 5-10 re_apply scenarii.
OK, enough writing. Have a nice week-end!
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deploy_package_on_server
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or
```
iterator on: '$f:systems', to_var: chunk
citerator on: '$v:chunk', to: system
deploy_package_on_server
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it to other systems,
I'd rather clone/pull the repository from the other systems directly. I guess
your environment doesn't let you do that.
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intervention (i.e. a team lead to confirm
deployment on production systems) I figured a proper workflow engine makes
more sense than hundreds more if-then-else clauses.
OK, got it.
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:41:15AM -0700, Reed Law wrote:
Because our application needs features in mongoid 3.x I have begun
implementing a new storage based on John Mettraux' ruote-mon storage.
Mongoid 3 is using it's own mongodb driver, called moped, instead of
10gen's mongo-ruby-driver
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