Il 03/02/2014 20:57, Evgeny Khramtsov ha scritto:
Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:45:21 +0100
Marco Cirillo wrote:
Long captcha - around 50%, mainly 70% of automated bot registrations
E-Mail verification - Mainly 30%, This wards off the remaining bots
which manage to OCR the captcha but can't deal with ve
Am 03.02.2014 20:57, schrieb Evgeny Khramtsov:
> We're thinking to switch to SMS-based verification for
> jabber.ru: we have it currently and it works fine and is pretty cheap,
> just need to disable email verification completely.
Hmm, nice way to collect users phone numbers.
I'm not sure if suc
Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:45:21 +0100
Marco Cirillo wrote:
> Long captcha - around 50%, mainly 70% of automated bot registrations
> E-Mail verification - Mainly 30%, This wards off the remaining bots
> which manage to OCR the captcha but can't deal with verifying E-Mails.
> DSA Filters + IP Throttling
Am 03.02.2014 20:52, schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 03.02.2014 19:56, schrieb Daniel Pocock:
The Debian stuff is still in the works, had a great discussion with
Matthew and some other free software projects at FOSDEM.
Do you've created a task force which comes to action whenever someone
has the
Am 03.02.2014 19:56, schrieb Daniel Pocock:
> The Debian stuff is still in the works, had a great discussion with
> Matthew and some other free software projects at FOSDEM.
Do you've created a task force which comes to action whenever someone
has the impertinence to publicly critize (some issues
On 03/02/14 19:09, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On 3 Feb 2014 16:44, "Andreas Kuckartz" wrote:
>>
>> Claudiu Curcă:
>>> 1. Why is that comment classified as "XMPP bashing"?
>>
>> As far as I know Daniel is mostly an SIP guy and is trying to _help_ the
>> XMPP community by pointing to that comment. But
Il 03/02/2014 19:13, Kevin Smith ha scritto:
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Marco Cirillo wrote:
Registration form with a long complex captcha + DEA filter + ip address
based throttling, E-Mail verification + 1 Mail Address associated per XMPP
account.
Some of these (IP throttling, limit per
On 2/3/14, 11:03 AM, Marco Cirillo wrote:
Il 03/02/2014 18:50, Peter Saint-Andre ha scritto:
Truly I don't know what would really help. :(
Peter
Registration form with a long complex captcha + DEA filter + ip address
based throttling, E-Mail verification + 1 Mail Address associated per
XMPP
On 3 Feb 2014 16:44, "Andreas Kuckartz" wrote:
>
> Claudiu Curcă:
> > 1. Why is that comment classified as "XMPP bashing"?
>
> As far as I know Daniel is mostly an SIP guy and is trying to _help_ the
> XMPP community by pointing to that comment. But I also do not think that
> the comment is "bashi
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Marco Cirillo wrote:
> Registration form with a long complex captcha + DEA filter + ip address
> based throttling, E-Mail verification + 1 Mail Address associated per XMPP
> account.
Some of these (IP throttling, limit per email address) help multiple
registrations
Il 03/02/2014 18:50, Peter Saint-Andre ha scritto:
Truly I don't know what would really help. :(
Peter
Registration form with a long complex captcha + DEA filter + ip address
based throttling, E-Mail verification + 1 Mail Address associated per
XMPP account.
Wards off 99% of Spam Registra
On 2/3/14, 10:54 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Feb 03, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
Good for you. Last year I had to close registrations to jabber.linux.it
because there were more fake than real users.
We really do need to figure out how to solve the problem of fake users.
I think that the experien
On Feb 03, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> >Good for you. Last year I had to close registrations to jabber.linux.it
> >because there were more fake than real users.
> We really do need to figure out how to solve the problem of fake users.
I think that the experience of mail operators already tells us
On 2/3/14, 10:39 AM, David Banes wrote:
On 3 Feb 2014, at 17:30, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
On 2/3/14, 9:50 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Feb 03, Thomas Camaran wrote:
i have over 30k users with prodosy in more one domain but not have this
problem
Good for you. Last year I had to close regist
On 3 Feb 2014, at 17:30, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 2/3/14, 9:50 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> On Feb 03, Thomas Camaran wrote:
>>
>>> i have over 30k users with prodosy in more one domain but not have this
>>> problem
>> Good for you. Last year I had to close registrations to jabber.linux.it
On 2/3/14, 9:50 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Feb 03, Thomas Camaran wrote:
i have over 30k users with prodosy in more one domain but not have this
problem
Good for you. Last year I had to close registrations to jabber.linux.it
because there were more fake than real users.
We really do need to
On Feb 03, Thomas Camaran wrote:
> i have over 30k users with prodosy in more one domain but not have this
> problem
Good for you. Last year I had to close registrations to jabber.linux.it
because there were more fake than real users.
--
ciao,
Marco
Claudiu Curcă:
> 1. Why is that comment classified as "XMPP bashing"?
As far as I know Daniel is mostly an SIP guy and is trying to _help_ the
XMPP community by pointing to that comment. But I also do not think that
the comment is "bashing" anything.
> why is the comment interesting to the operat
On 03/02/2014 17:04, Felix Eckhofer wrote:
>> [...]
>
> Unfortunately I can't help you there but I would be interested what kind of
> tools Openfire has to deal with that. Also, can the spammer not just use dummy
> addresses from other popular servers?
The messages have to come from *somewhere* :
Hey.
Am 03.02.2014 16:56, schrieb Moonchild:
I was sure fellow operators would be familiar with the normal range of
abuse
an XMPP server sees, but maybe a few examples are in order:
[...]
Unfortunately I can't help you there but I would be interested what kind
of tools Openfire has to deal w
Hi,
i have over 30k users with prodosy in more one domain but not have this
problem
2014-02-03 Moonchild :
> On 03/02/2014 14:54, Simon Tennant wrote:
> > If would help if you could describe the abusive behavior you are seeing.
>
> I was sure fellow operators would be familiar with the normal ra
On 03/02/2014 14:54, Simon Tennant wrote:
> If would help if you could describe the abusive behavior you are seeing.
I was sure fellow operators would be familiar with the normal range of abuse
an XMPP server sees, but maybe a few examples are in order:
* Automated registrations by bots (in-band a
If would help if you could describe the abusive behavior you are seeing.
On 3 February 2014 14:29, Moonchild wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I've been running prosody for a little while now, and although I'm happy
> with
> the c2s/s2s security of the connections it makes, I'm running into a
> different
Hey folks,
I've been running prosody for a little while now, and although I'm happy with
the c2s/s2s security of the connections it makes, I'm running into a different
security issue which is potentially a much larger problem.
The problem is: spammers and otherwise abusive users. There is no easy
Two things I don't understand here...
1. Why is that comment classified as "XMPP bashing"? His arguments are valid
(Skype, and I could personally think of a few more examples, as a *service*
IS more user-friendly than any XMPP-based service, especially if you want
more than text chatting).
2. While
Maybe somebody would like to reply to this:
http://danielpocock.com/comment/11366#comment-11366
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