Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread Lars Kruse
Hi, Am Sat, 06 May 2017 03:55:45 +0300 schrieb sergio : > May be both are not alive, but matrix is only two years old and it has no > problems with message lost, can call and send push messages, and xmpp is > about 10 times older.b The Lindy effect [1] would consider the age of xmpp to be a cle

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread Dave Cridland
+1. Also, bet on the one that can adapt stably. Matrix has already suffered interop breaks and forklift upgrades, XMPP is much better in that regard. One could even see it as the upside of the fragmentation that Matrix complains of. On 6 May 2017 08:54, "David Banes" wrote: > My annual chip in :

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread David Banes
My annual chip in :) XMPP crossed the chasm and peaked (Google Chat, Facebook Chat, WhatsApp) and some may argue it’s on the tail now, but it does still have a small niche in the market with lots to offer. Matrix hasn’t even reached the chasm let alone crossed it so it may have a future but li

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread Carlos Lopez
Now I understand, you do not know what you're talking about. El 06/05/2017 a las 2:55, sergio escribió: On May 5, 2017 1:25:11 AM GMT+03:00, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote: Both are dead in fact, but XMPP at least has a nice past. May be both are not alive, but matrix is only two years old and it