On Sun, Sep 3, 2017, at 15:59, Holger Weiß wrote:
> You can configure an SMTP server to not act as a relay, but you can't
> configure an XMPP server to not send spam.
You can't configure an SMTP server not to send spam either, but you can
configure it to make it a bit harder by not allowing them t
On 9/3/17 12:29 AM, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote:
> Sat, 2 Sep 2017 19:56:44 -0600
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>
>> Back when we pushed for encryption of server-to-server traffic, the
>> spam problem did not exist.
>
> SPIM existed in Russian segment of jabber a long before it,
True.
> so for me,
>
Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:36:21 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
1) Module does not work correctly as it pointed.
So I finally fixed the issue, this will go into next ejabberd release.
Great to hear it :). Waiting for the release.
Cheers,
bluszcz
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* Solomon Peachy [2017-09-02 10:27]:
> On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +0200, Holger Weiß wrote:
> > And either way your comparison doesn't hold. If you're operating an
> > open SMTP relay, you're doing something you can't do with XMPP. We're
> > talking about blocking service providers who h
Sat, 2 Sep 2017 19:56:44 -0600
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Back when we pushed for encryption of server-to-server traffic, the
> spam problem did not exist.
SPIM existed in Russian segment of jabber a long before it, so for me,
nothing has been changed in recent years.
> I see no reason why we c
On 9/2/17 10:12 AM, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote:
> Sat, 2 Sep 2017 10:27:35 -0400
> Solomon Peachy wrote:
>
>> This crap can and will drive users away from federated XMPP
>> altogether, and is a far bigger practical problem than non-encrypted
>> S2S comms.
>
> Finally someone said that :) Alas, there
Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:36:21 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
> 1) Module does not work correctly as it pointed.
So I finally fixed the issue, this will go into next ejabberd release.
Sat, 2 Sep 2017 10:27:35 -0400
Solomon Peachy wrote:
> This crap can and will drive users away from federated XMPP
> altogether, and is a far bigger practical problem than non-encrypted
> S2S comms.
Finally someone said that :) Alas, there is severe crypto cancer among
XMPP community.
On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +0200, Holger Weiß wrote:
> And either way your comparison doesn't hold. If you're operating an
> open SMTP relay, you're doing something you can't do with XMPP. We're
> talking about blocking service providers who have *local* spammers.
Fair enough -- but rega
* David Banes [2017-09-01 17:16]:
> 'If you are a service provider with an open relay you will quickly find
> yourself on a blacklist which will mean most other services providers
> will be blocking you.'
Not sure "most" will, but whatever. The question was whether you achieve
a good spam classi
Fri, 1 Sep 2017 17:16:15 +0100
David Banes wrote:
> If you are a service provider with an open relay you will quickly
> find yourself on a blacklist which will mean most other services
> providers will be blocking you
Kinda yes, but what we faced in practice on jabber.ru is that users
from bloc
Fri, 1 Sep 2017 17:51:39 +0200
Holger Weiß wrote:
> We're talking about blocking service providers who have *local*
> spammers
I would also like to add that it's quite easy to compromise your
server, i.e. to force putting it into such block list. You really need
an insanely advanced registration
On 1 Sep 2017, at 16:51, Holger Weiß wrote:
>
> * Solomon Peachy [2017-09-01 11:30]:
>> To this day, if you operate an unsecured email relay you will find that
>> nobody will accept email from you.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> There are indeed some email service providers who rely solely on relay
> serve
* Solomon Peachy [2017-09-01 11:30]:
> To this day, if you operate an unsecured email relay you will find that
> nobody will accept email from you.
Nonsense.
There are indeed some email service providers who rely solely on relay
server blacklists for spam classification, but they will usually yi
On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 05:26:35PM +0300, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote:
> Also, your idea with banning servers is even worse, we ended up with
> tons of complains on jabber.ru with such policy. The list have grown up
> to several hundreds of servers which I don't treat as a positive thing.
While blockin
Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:36:21 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
> 1) Module does not work correctly as it pointed.
Only MAM is affected, which will be fixed as long as I have time to
look into it.
> 2) Spammers are sending now Presence subscription request.
So? What do spammers expect from these subscri
Isn't it easier to use mod_block_strangers module (introduced in recent
versions)? At least currently, spammers are not yet able to bypass it.
Actually no.
1) Module does not work correctly as it pointed.
2) Spammers are sending now Presence subscription request.
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Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:07:50 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
> It seems that thanks for this bug spammers ARE able to bypass it
First of all, only MAM storage is affected.
Secondly, the bug will be eventually fixed in 17.09 as stated in that
discussion.
Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:04:07 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
> Maybe it is my configuration problem, but for me this module does not
> work - I keep getting spam messages and my own tests (sending
> messages from non subscribed account) do confirm it...
The module only triggers on remote server acco
On 2017-08-23 23:51, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote:
Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:33:04 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
Hi All,
I have updated to the new ejabberd format (based on previously
https://github.com/agx/jabber-spam-blacklist [1]) new list with the
spam
servers:
https://github.com/bluszcz/jabber-spa
On 2017-08-23 23:51, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote:
Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:33:04 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
Hi All,
I have updated to the new ejabberd format (based on previously
https://github.com/agx/jabber-spam-blacklist [1]) new list with the
spam
servers:
https://github.com/bluszcz/jabber-spa
Yes
Inviato da iPhone
> Il giorno 23 ago 2017, alle ore 23:52, Rafał Zawadzki
> ha scritto:
>
>
>> On 2017-08-24 00:28, Thomas Camaran wrote:
>>
>> Hi for prosody?
>
> Are you asking for the Prosody SPAM list or the module?
>
>
> --
> Rafal bluszcz Zawadzki
> https://jabberpl.org - XMPP
On 2017-08-24 00:28, Thomas Camaran wrote:
Hi for prosody?
Are you asking for the Prosody SPAM list or the module?
--
Rafal bluszcz Zawadzki
https://jabberpl.org - XMPP server which respects your privacy
Hi for prosody?
Inviato da iPhone
> Il giorno 23 ago 2017, alle ore 22:51, Evgeny Khramtsov
> ha scritto:
>
> Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:33:04 +0300
> Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have updated to the new ejabberd format (based on previously
>> https://github.com/agx/jabber-spam-blac
Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:33:04 +0300
Rafał Zawadzki wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have updated to the new ejabberd format (based on previously
> https://github.com/agx/jabber-spam-blacklist) new list with the spam
> servers:
>
> https://github.com/bluszcz/jabber-spam-blacklist/blob/master/blacklist_new.y
Hi All,
I have updated to the new ejabberd format (based on previously
https://github.com/agx/jabber-spam-blacklist) new list with the spam
servers:
https://github.com/bluszcz/jabber-spam-blacklist/blob/master/blacklist_new.yml
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