Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-20 Thread Marvin Gülker
Hi everyone, thank you for your explanations. I'm still fairly new to this so thank you for your patience...! Am Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:25:11 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland : > Yes, in RFC 5280, RFC 6125, and RFC 6120. But they're relatively tough > reading (especially 5280). I'm out for a longer read

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-20 Thread Dave Cridland
On 20 July 2016 at 10:15, Dave Cridland wrote: > > > On 20 July 2016 at 10:07, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> Sam Whited writes: >> >> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:53 AM, Simon Josefsson >> wrote: >> >> I wonder if people really care about this usage any more -- it does not >> >> scale well (all d

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-20 Thread Dave Cridland
On 20 July 2016 at 10:07, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Sam Whited writes: > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:53 AM, Simon Josefsson > wrote: > >> I wonder if people really care about this usage any more -- it does not > >> scale well (all domains have to be encoded in the same cert => big > >> certs)

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-20 Thread Simon Josefsson
Sam Whited writes: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:53 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> I wonder if people really care about this usage any more -- it does not >> scale well (all domains have to be encoded in the same cert => big >> certs) and introduces an indirection which often leaves room for >> att

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-20 Thread Dave Cridland
On 20 July 2016 at 08:58, Florian Schmaus wrote: > For the near future, I hope that certificates using only srvNames will > become more common. But if you want to stay super "compatible" with all > sorts of XMPP software out there, then you probably want to put your > XMPP domain in the CN too. W

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-20 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 19.07.2016 18:36, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Am Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:15:40 +0200 > schrieb Florian Schmaus : >> Isn't one problem that a cert with CN "example.org" will be valid for >> all services found on example.org (simply speaking), whereas when >> using SRV-ID restricts the cert to a particular

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-19 Thread Dave Cridland
On 19 July 2016 at 17:36, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Am Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:15:40 +0200 > schrieb Florian Schmaus : > > Isn't one problem that a cert with CN "example.org" will be valid for > > all services found on example.org (simply speaking), whereas when > > using SRV-ID restricts the cert to a

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-19 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 06:36:01PM +0200, Marvin G??lker wrote: > I have always wondered about which domains should actually be included > into a TLS certificate for use in XMPP services once an SRV record is > in place. Do I need a certificate which covers xmpp.example.com? Or > does one for examp

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-19 Thread Marvin Gülker
Am Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:15:40 +0200 schrieb Florian Schmaus : > Isn't one problem that a cert with CN "example.org" will be valid for > all services found on example.org (simply speaking), whereas when > using SRV-ID restricts the cert to a particular service? I have always wondered about which dom

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-19 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 19.07.2016 16:06, Sam Whited wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:53 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> I wonder if people really care about this usage any more -- it does not >> scale well (all domains have to be encoded in the same cert => big >> certs) and introduces an indirection which often leav

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-19 Thread Thomas Camaran
I think the very question is: it's possible to use srv and let's encrypted certificate? and if yes how with prosody? 2016-07-19 16:06 GMT+02:00 Sam Whited : > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:53 AM, Simon Josefsson > wrote: > > I wonder if people really care about this usage any more -- it does not > >

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-19 Thread Sam Whited
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:53 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I wonder if people really care about this usage any more -- it does not > scale well (all domains have to be encoded in the same cert => big > certs) and introduces an indirection which often leaves room for > attackers I don't understand

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-19 Thread Simon Josefsson
Martin Vietz writes: > Hi Tomasz, > > On 10.07.2016 23:30, Tomasz Sterna wrote: >> I am already using letsencrypt for https, but I wasn't sure it would >> work with XMPP. > > You can also secure all other services using ssl/tls with x509, e.g. > SMTP, IMAP, FTP over SSL, Mumble Let's Encrypt doe

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-10 Thread Martin Vietz
Hi Tomasz, On 10.07.2016 23:30, Tomasz Sterna wrote: > I am already using letsencrypt for https, but I wasn't sure it would > work with XMPP. You can also secure all other services using ssl/tls with x509, e.g. SMTP, IMAP, FTP over SSL, Mumble Best Regards Martin

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-10 Thread Tomasz Sterna
W dniu 10.07.2016, nie o godzinie 22∶49 +0200, użytkownik Martin Vietz napisał: > I strongly recommend you https://letsencrypt.org/ I am already using letsencrypt for https, but I wasn't sure it would work with XMPP. But actually it works like as a charm. Thank you all for suggesting it. :) I j

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-10 Thread Martin Vietz
Hi Tomasz, On 10.07.2016 21:45, Tomasz Sterna wrote: > Which certificate provider giving free or reasonably priced > certificates that work with XMPP would you recommend? > > Which do you use and could recommend? I strongly recommend you https://letsencrypt.org/ It’s free, automated, and open.

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-10 Thread Daniel Fischaleck
Von: Tomasz Sterna Datum: 10.07.2016 21:45 (GMT+01:00) An: XMPP Operators Group Betreff: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server Hi. Which certificate provider giving free or reasonably priced certificates that work with XMPP would you recommend? I was using StartSSL

Re: [Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-10 Thread Holger Weiß
* Tomasz Sterna [2016-07-10 21:45]: > Which certificate provider giving free or reasonably priced > certificates that work with XMPP would you recommend? Let's Encrypt? Holger

[Operators] Obtaining XMPP-enabled certificate for server

2016-07-10 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Hi. Which certificate provider giving free or reasonably priced certificates that work with XMPP would you recommend? I was using StartSSL certificates, but they just refused to renew my certs and want me to "upgrade" for US$ 119.80 first. I don't find this _reasonably_ priced cert for a free to