Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-20 Thread Ralph Meijer
On 2014-08-20 16:49, Hiers, David wrote: > Marketing came up with a crazy idea that needed killing. > > The one sliver of RFC 6120 that gave any hope life to this horrid beast was: > > 8.1.1.2.2. The domainpart of the JID contained in the stanza's 'to' >attribute MUST match the FQDN of

Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-20 Thread Hiers, David
s, David (DS) Subject: Re: [Operators] transitive federations? Out of curiosity, do you have a specific need for relaying or "transitive federations"? In general, if domain A is openly federated, it should be able to communicate directly with other domains such as B, C, D, E, ... without

Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-19 Thread David Holl
sage- >From: Operators [mailto:operators-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Kim >Alvefur >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 08:54 >To: operators@xmpp.org >Subject: Re: [Operators] transitive federations? > >On 2014-08-19 17:45, Philipp Hancke wrote: >> Am 19.08.2014 17:23

Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-19 Thread Hiers, David
Thanks for the responses! David -Original Message- From: Operators [mailto:operators-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Kim Alvefur Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 08:54 To: operators@xmpp.org Subject: Re: [Operators] transitive federations? On 2014-08-19 17:45, Philipp Hancke wrote: >

Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-19 Thread Kevin Smith
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Hiers, David wrote: > Hi, > > Are XMPP federation transitive? In other words, if A federates with B, and > B federates with C, can A send traffic to C through B? No, not in standard XMPP. Some servers will allow this by additional configuration, but this is only

Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-19 Thread Kim Alvefur
On 2014-08-19 17:45, Philipp Hancke wrote: > Am 19.08.2014 17:23, schrieb Hiers, David: >> Hi, >> Are XMPP federation transitive? In other words, if A federates with >> B, and B federates with C, can A send traffic to C through B? > > Relaying is not supported. This isn't Internet Relay chat :-)

Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-19 Thread Philipp Hancke
Am 19.08.2014 17:23, schrieb Hiers, David: Hi, Are XMPP federation transitive? In other words, if A federates with B, and B federates with C, can A send traffic to C through B? Relaying is not supported. This isn't Internet Relay chat :-) I can't find anything in the RFCs, XEPs, or vendor d

Re: [Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-19 Thread Matthew Wild
On 19 August 2014 16:23, Hiers, David wrote: > Hi, > > Are XMPP federation transitive? In other words, if A federates with B, and > B federates with C, can A send traffic to C through B? No, they cannot. XMPP server-to-server traffic always flows directly from one domain to another. Regards, Ma

[Operators] transitive federations?

2014-08-19 Thread Hiers, David
Hi, Are XMPP federation transitive? In other words, if A federates with B, and B federates with C, can A send traffic to C through B? I can't find anything in the RFCs, XEPs, or vendor docs that permit this kind of transitive federation, but I'm not yet convinced that I've read everything that