Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread Lars Kruse
Hi, Am Sat, 06 May 2017 03:55:45 +0300 schrieb sergio : > May be both are not alive, but matrix is only two years old and it has no > problems with message lost, can call and send push messages, and xmpp is > about 10 times older.b The Lindy effect [1] would consider the age of xmpp to be a cle

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread Dave Cridland
+1. Also, bet on the one that can adapt stably. Matrix has already suffered interop breaks and forklift upgrades, XMPP is much better in that regard. One could even see it as the upside of the fragmentation that Matrix complains of. On 6 May 2017 08:54, "David Banes" wrote: > My annual chip in :

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread David Banes
My annual chip in :) XMPP crossed the chasm and peaked (Google Chat, Facebook Chat, WhatsApp) and some may argue it’s on the tail now, but it does still have a small niche in the market with lots to offer. Matrix hasn’t even reached the chasm let alone crossed it so it may have a future but li

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-06 Thread Carlos Lopez
Now I understand, you do not know what you're talking about. El 06/05/2017 a las 2:55, sergio escribió: On May 5, 2017 1:25:11 AM GMT+03:00, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote: Both are dead in fact, but XMPP at least has a nice past. May be both are not alive, but matrix is only two years old and it

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-05 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Sat, 06 May 2017 03:55:45 +0300 sergio wrote: > May be both are not alive, but matrix is only two years old and it > has no problems with message lost, can call and send push messages, > and xmpp is about 10 times older.b Speaking about protocols both can send pushes and don't lose messages. Spe

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-05 Thread sergio
On May 5, 2017 1:25:11 AM GMT+03:00, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote: >Both are dead in fact, but XMPP at least has a nice past. May be both are not alive, but matrix is only two years old and it has no problems with message lost, can call and send push messages, and xmpp is about 10 times older.b --

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-04 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Fri, 05 May 2017 00:44:34 +0300 sergio wrote: > Matrix lives. Only in dreams of Matrix developers. Both are dead in fact, but XMPP at least has a nice past.

Re: [Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-04 Thread postal dude
Goodbye and thanks for visiting. Have fun in the Matrix world. On 04.05.2017 23:44, sergio wrote: > Hello. > > I'd just like to say goodbuy to Jabber world. > > Nowadays XMPP is dead and Matrix lives. > > Thank you! >

[Operators] xmpp is dead

2017-05-04 Thread sergio
Hello. I'd just like to say goodbuy to Jabber world. Nowadays XMPP is dead and Matrix lives. Thank you! -- sergio.