Re: [OPSAWG] Last Call: (Service Models Explained) to Informational RFC

2017-09-27 Thread Warren Kumari
Apologies everyone, I accidentally hit the wrong button in the datatracker. This document has already successfully passed IETF LC (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/FXMc81LranPhaqpS_rIOE6Q8nbA), I am not restarting it. Sorry again for the noise / mis-click. W On Wed, Sep 27,

[OPSAWG] Last Call: (Service Models Explained) to Informational RFC

2017-09-27 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Operations and Management Area Working Group WG (opsawg) to consider the following document: - 'Service Models Explained' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please

Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-11

2017-09-27 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Kent, On 9/26/17 10:17 PM, Kent Watsen wrote: > I'm not disputing the value of being able to relay such information (though > it's missing in the brski draft), I'm just thinking that rather than hardcode > something into the base MUD file description, that the same can be done using > the

Re: [OPSAWG] TR: Request to review draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang-01

2017-09-27 Thread Joe Clarke
On 9/27/17 09:20, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > > Adding policy and >> other non-NAT items would conflate the scope. > > [Med] Allowing for multiple NAT configurations within the same instance is > easy to add. > What I'm hesitating to add is advanced classification filtering that is

Re: [OPSAWG] TR: Request to review draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang-01

2017-09-27 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Joe, Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Clarke [mailto:jcla...@cisco.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 27 septembre 2017 14:36 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; opsawg@ietf.org > Cc : Poscic, Kristian (Nokia - US)

Re: [OPSAWG] TR: Request to review draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang-01

2017-09-27 Thread Joe Clarke
On 9/26/17 10:06, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > Dear OPSAWG, > > I have requested an external review of the draft from a vendor who is not a > co-author of the draft. > > Kris (cced) has kindly shared his comments about the current structure of the > module and voiced for some

[OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained-04.txt

2017-09-27 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Operations and Management Area Working Group WG of the IETF. Title : Service Models Explained Authors : Qin Wu Will Liu

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang-03.txt

2017-09-27 Thread Benoit Claise
Hi, Great. This YANG module now correctly validates and is NMDA compliant. https://www.yangcatalog.org/yang-search/module_details.php?module=ietf-l2vpn-...@2017-08-25.yang Regards, Benoit A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item

Re: [OPSAWG] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained-03

2017-09-27 Thread Adrian Farrel
Thanks Robert, > I don't have text to suggest, but please look at the first bullet of section 5. > The explanation here was less helpful than the other bullets. Demonstrating the > confusion due to the reuse of the word "service" doesn't help clarify the > confusion. I wonder if there's more

Re: [OPSAWG] AD Review of draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained

2017-09-27 Thread Benoit Claise
Hi Adrian, Some of this has been discussed on YANG doctors list some time ago. Bad luck, before it was archived. Good news, I explained the conclusions on the NETMOD mailing list. See

Re: [OPSAWG] Fwd: AD Review of draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained

2017-09-27 Thread Benoit Claise
Hi Adrian, > In the same figure, could the "Device Configuration Model" be renamed to RFC 8199 > "Network Element YANG module" (this is what you did in figure 4 anyway) I believe we are separating the "device configuration model" that is used to talk to an NE, and a "network configuration

Re: [OPSAWG] AD Review of draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained

2017-09-27 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi Tom, Long time! > > What I see from 7950 is that a "YANG module" is a compilable blob of > > YANG that may include other modules or specific constructs from another > > module. That is clear enough. > > > > What is less clear is what a "data model" is or is not. I think that > > if, for

Re: [OPSAWG] AD Review of draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained

2017-09-27 Thread Adrian Farrel
> For now I'll complete the AD writeup, and put it in AD watching, > revised ID needed state. Once y'all have figured out an answer I'll > hit the Go button. Fair enough, Warren. I have an update ready with changes for everyone else's comment, so we are "close". I know that Benoit is busy