Hi Tianran, working group, Tl;dr -- I support adoption
I read Juergen's very substantive comments, and I probably need to go back and re-read them. Juergen is a beacon for how IETF participants should contribute constructively and in detail. His detailed comments and suggestions for improvement to the document seem to me to raise very valid points. This is exactly how the working group process should work so that individual participants can guide and contribute to Internet-Drafts. I believe that Juergen's comments on the document would be best addressed by bringing the document into the working group and developing improvements under the care of the working group. However, in answering "Does the IETF need a Network Telemetry Framework?" Juergen provides a number of additional pointers to where and how the document could be improved to make its scope more useful. I think I agree with his guidance about making the document better, but these are not points that address the specific question. My view is that it is the job of area-wide or broad-scoped working groups to guide other work in the IETF by providing definitions, requirements, frameworks, and architectures. Telemetry is clearly an area of increasing interest and relevance, and I think it is for the OPSAWG to provide the lead on this topic. I think that this document could serve as a place to collect the definitions, requirements, a framework, and an architecture for telemetry. I am not hung up on its current name as a "framework" and believe that that is a good enough umbrella under which to place all of the necessary text. I believe that the OPSAWG is the right place to do this work and that this document provides a good enough starting point. I'd like to see it adopted and then updated particularly in line with Juergen's comments. Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: OPSAWG <opsawg-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Tianran Zhou Sent: 11 March 2019 02:40 To: opsawg@ietf.org Cc: opsawg-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] WG adoption poll for draft-song-opsawg-ntf Hi WG, As you may have seen, the authors have posted an update to draft-song-opsawg-ntf-03 to address discussions in Bangkok and after. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ntf/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/g338UPfVAtOhVhdDzhJcR2nS76E In Bangkok there seemed to some interest in working on this topic and the chairs believe it is in scope for this working group. This email starts a poll for adoption. If you support adopting this document please say so, and please give an indication of why you think it is important. Also please say if you will be willing to review and help the draft. If you do not support adopting this document as a starting point for work on this topic, please say why. This poll will run until 9am in Prague on Monday 25th March. Regards, Tianran, OPSAWG Co-Chair _______________________________________________ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg _______________________________________________ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg