Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Genart early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-08

2017-08-31 Thread Einar Nilsen-Nygaard (einarnn)
I think we need to bear in mind that the MUD files constitute recommendations for how a device should be treated and what policies/security should be applied to it by a network. This draft, in itself, cannot allow a manufacturer to actually proscribe anything. Today, the only way to achieve what

Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Genart early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-08

2017-08-30 Thread Dale R. Worley
This draft raises some fascinating questions. One is "How do we ensure that the manufacturer cannot proscribe the uses of a device that it is capable of and that its purchaser desires?" Another is "How do we ensure that the manufacturer cannot reduce the permitted uses of the device after its pur