Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread Watson Ladd
eweb101 wrote: > Yes, that's it. I'm sure it's not a new idea, but the few times I've > seen P2P discussed within Tor, the discussion centers around the amount > of traffic exiting the network instead of doing what it would take to > run a P2P network completely within Tor. The key to designing thi

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread eweb101
Yes, that's it. I'm sure it's not a new idea, but the few times I've seen P2P discussed within Tor, the discussion centers around the amount of traffic exiting the network instead of doing what it would take to run a P2P network completely within Tor. On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Patrick Hooke

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread Patrick Hooker
eweb101 wrote: > The section on Bandwidth and filesharing seems to be dealing with exit > nodes. What I'm suggesting is that content is contained within the Tor > network so exit nodes are not used at all. > > What I don't know is if the non-exit nodes in the Tor network are > bandwidth-constrained

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread eweb101
The section on Bandwidth and filesharing seems to be dealing with exit nodes. What I'm suggesting is that content is contained within the Tor network so exit nodes are not used at all. What I don't know is if the non-exit nodes in the Tor network are bandwidth-constrained. If there is extra ca

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Syverson
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 02:17:47PM -0700, eweb101 wrote: > I don't think it would be too difficult to get something like > bittorrent working within the Tor network. What I mean by that is both > the tracker and all clients are within the network. We'd have to > update the bittorrent client sof

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread Enigma
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Personally, I believe you won't see any useful/fast anonymous p2p network until most users have very fast broadband connections with high upstream (something that isn't very common in my country for example) due to the huge amount of data that has to

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread eweb101
I don't think it would be too difficult to get something like bittorrent working within the Tor network. What I mean by that is both the tracker and all clients are within the network. We'd have to update the bittorrent client software to not use IP addresses of course, but something similar h

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 07:25:13PM +, Robert Hogan wrote: > Has there been any thought, specc-ing in this direction? Anything that could > sheds some light on the technical issues that would need to be addressed? Or > is there something in the tor design which would make any attempt to build

Re: tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread Nils Vogels
On 1/24/07, Robert Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or is there something in the tor design which would make any attempt to build anonymous p2p on top of it unfeasible? Not so much the design, but more the nature of the beast: Since you are creating an overlay network, you will need to find

tor and p2p

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Hogan
Hi there, Without thinking about it too deeply, tor would *appear* to have many of the necessary components for anonymous p2p. Has there been any thought, specc-ing in this direction? Anything that could sheds some light on the technical issues that would need to be addressed? Or is there some

Re: Fwd: EZZI.net Abuse Warning

2007-01-24 Thread Michael Holstein
Here's the "boiler plate" I use for such things (137.148.5.13 was previously the exit-node router "csutor"). You should obviously 's/137.148.5.13/your.ip.address/g': --snip-- 137.148.5.13 is an anonymous proxy that's part of the TOR network. You can learn more about TOR at http://tor.eff.org.