Re: Tor 0.2.0.2-alpha is out

2007-06-14 Thread phobos
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:00:46PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.4K bytes in 15 lines about: : I am testing the options RelayBandwidthRate and RelayBandwidthBurst. I : note, using the utility iftop that the band-width consumed by Tor (in : the absence of any client connection) largely exceeds t

Re: What this data represents?

2007-06-14 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:18:20PM -0700, Mr. Blue wrote: > Can someone tell me what this data represents? If you want to know what the control port interface does, the best place to look is in the documentation at: http://tor.eff.org/svn/trunk/doc/spec/control-spec.txt The ns/* stuff is in

Re: Cisco firewall filtering Tor?

2007-06-14 Thread Ringo Kamens
You also might have some luck routing tor through an external SOCKS server that listens on port 80/443. Comrade Ringo Kamens On 6/14/07, Mike Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Jay! Thus spake Jay Goodman Tamboli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I'm stuck behind a FascistFirewall part of the day, and

Re: Cisco firewall filtering Tor?

2007-06-14 Thread Mike Perry
Hey Jay! Thus spake Jay Goodman Tamboli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I'm stuck behind a FascistFirewall part of the day, and I've been > trying to get Tor to work as a client. I've added a line to my torrc: > > ReachableAddresses *:443 > > Oddly, I can see that Skype is using TCP connections on port

Re: Cisco firewall filtering Tor?

2007-06-14 Thread Ringo Kamens
It's probably just blocking by IP address. Comrade Ringo Kamens On 6/14/07, Jay Goodman Tamboli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm stuck behind a FascistFirewall part of the day, and I've been trying to get Tor to work as a client. I've added a line to my torrc: ReachableAddresses *:443 Oddly, I c

What this data represents?

2007-06-14 Thread Mr. Blue
Can someone tell me what this data represents? I get this from Tor control port: Example: r tornado324235 AQ7032pcDbAYFeXBX0OXd4iyttk XF86u6Z9ghMFa8Xw+62oQGBOlmI 2007-06-14 14:12:11 130.88.133.14 9001 9030 s Valid V2Dir As I know for each node you get 2 lines. First starting with r is: r nicname

Cisco firewall filtering Tor?

2007-06-14 Thread Jay Goodman Tamboli
I'm stuck behind a FascistFirewall part of the day, and I've been trying to get Tor to work as a client. I've added a line to my torrc: ReachableAddresses *:443 Oddly, I can see that Skype is using TCP connections on port 443. I can't tell if they're working, but Skype is keeping them up (and Sk

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Freemor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >anyways just thoughts in the wind.. I'm sure the Tor Devs are > probably gnashing teeth and pulling hair as a hundred reasons why it's a > bad idea stream through their minds. Code moves faster than law. No need to panic, or speculate on technical solu

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:46:00PM +0100, Smuggler wrote: > Ringo Kamens wrote: > > Just off the bat, who here (in > > Germany) is up for street protests? If you make it in Munich, I'll be there. Will take a day off work for that. > I think that Germans learned from the recent G8 mess that stre

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Freemor
Hi Everyone, Just wanted to throw out some thoughts. Since, from what's been said here, the draft is about keeping connection data and not content wouldn't it be possible to make Tor nodes (servers and clients) make trivial connections to other servers even just something like a syn<->syn,ack<-

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Smuggler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ringo Kamens wrote: > Just off the bat, who here (in > Germany) is up for street protests? I think that Germans learned from the recent G8 mess that street protests are very dangerous. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) i

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Ringo Kamens
I emailed them, hopefully somewhere there speaks English. I think we have the data retention laws under control here, but I may eat my words on that. Regardless, the situation in Germany is much more urgent. I'll set up a mailing list for the campaign once we get off the ground and we'll get a sit

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Smuggler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ringo Kamens wrote: > So are the people who vote on this elected representatives like we > have in the US congress and senate or the UK house of commons? Yes. More or less. > The > campaigns look interesting, but I can't read German. I can coordinat

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Ringo Kamens
So are the people who vote on this elected representatives like we have in the US congress and senate or the UK house of commons? The campaigns look interesting, but I can't read German. I can coordinate an English campaign for the US/Intl though. Comrade Ringo Kamens On 6/14/07, Smuggler <[EMAIL

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Smuggler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ringo Kamens wrote: > Yeah, and they certainly should get involved with this, although I'm > not sure how. This is a dark day for germany. I keep hearing the word > draft being thrown around, so I'm guessing this isn't law yet. Exactly, it is no law y

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Ringo Kamens
Yeah, and they certainly should get involved with this, although I'm not sure how. This is a dark day for germany. I keep hearing the word draft being thrown around, so I'm guessing this isn't law yet. Has the time for public comment ended? Which german officials can/do stand in the way of this be

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Smuggler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eugen Leitl wrote: > Do you have a link to the draft? You don't mention private individuals, > just organisations. Draft and comments sent via private email. Private individuals: It seems to me that private individuals fall under the same rule when pr

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 03:07:25PM +0100, Smuggler wrote: > Actually it is a up to 500k EURO fine for the company/organisation and > additionally up to 1 year in prison for the directors/managers of the > company. Do you have a link to the draft? You don't mention private individuals, just organi

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Smuggler
Ringo Kamens wrote: > If it's a 500,000 OR Jail time, then we could organize a defense fund On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:51:11AM -0500, Arrakis wrote: > Expect crickets. The fines will be 500,000 Euro + 2 years prison for Actually it is a up to 500k EURO fine for the company/organisation and additi

Re: Tor 0.2.0.2-alpha is out

2007-06-14 Thread Fredzupy
Roger Dingledine wrote: > These releases provide new features for people running Tor as both a > client and a server (check out the new RelayBandwidth config options); let > Hello, I am testing the options RelayBandwidthRate and RelayBandwidthBurst. I note, using the utility iftop that the band

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Ringo Kamens
If it's a 500,000 OR Jail time, then we could organize a defense fund to pay for violations as an act of civil disobedience. I'm willing to chip in $20 and I think that we could get lots of backing on that. Comrade Ringo Kamens On 6/14/07, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:51:11AM -0500, Arrakis wrote: > Expect crickets. The fines will be 500,000 Euro + 2 years prison for For providers failing to comply, I would think. Not for small-time amateurs like us. But, I don't want to find this out the hard way, in person. > disobeying, I've hear

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Arrakis
JT Expect crickets. The fines will be 500,000 Euro + 2 years prison for disobeying, I've heard. Pretty outrageous, considering Germany is such a strong proponent for privacy. XeroBank has a solution we are hoping we won't have to implement, but it will allow Tor nodes to continue to operate in Ge

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread M
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I try to log as little as I can and use encrypted partition for logging. Tor logs are also shredded on every stop / start. M Ringo Kamens wrote: > Perhaps there should be some type of flag the logging server can set > in their information so users

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Ringo Kamens
Perhaps there should be some type of flag the logging server can set in their information so users can block them or tor can know to only use one in each circuit. Comrade Ringo Kamens On 6/14/07, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 01:23:30AM -0700, JT wrote: > Under

Re: What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 01:23:30AM -0700, JT wrote: > Under the proposed new data retention law which will take effect 01/2008 > anonymizing services will be either banned or tor server operators will > be required to log data which would render the tor software useless as Just connection data, n

What will happen to Tor after the new German data retention law takes effect?

2007-06-14 Thread JT
Under the proposed new data retention law which will take effect 01/2008 anonymizing services will be either banned or tor server operators will be required to log data which would render the tor software useless as an anonymizing tool. Other European countries will surely follow once the law is i