Re: Not using slow circuits (was Re: Tor slow no matter what I do.)

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 19:47:34 -0500 Roger Dingledine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 09:00:18PM -0800, Mike Perry wrote: >> > I don't see how that helps much. Circuit setup generally isn't the >> > cause of slowdowns. Normally, going through a server with 25KB/s is the >> >

Re: The use of malicious botnets to disrupt The Onion Router

The problem of corrupted exit servers is indeed one that we should all ponder until a solution may be found. However, setting up, say, 1,000 hidden, slaved, correctly configured tor servers via a bot net may be rather more difficult to accomplish than you have fully considered. Entry guards and m

Re: Odd behavior: same entry/exit node + more

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 19:28:34 -0500 Roger Dingledine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 06:45:20AM -0800, Thomas Barvo wrote: >> - A. Same Entry/Exit Node - >> : Web browsing speed suddenly increases as if Tor wasn't running at >> all - a quick check reveals an entry node displa

RE: The use of malicious botnets to disrupt The Onion Router

> A manually administered . . . centralized list? Because, call me crazy, > but a centralized list of "authorized routers" has some very, very > obvious flaws in it, both technical and security-related. Maybe a trust model? Ie like Facebook.. I trust my friends.. they trust their friends... Remove

Fastmail.fm better E-mail for Tor users than Gmail? HTTPS!

A lot of Tor users seem to prefer using Gmail as it appears to be one of the few web mail services with secure logins and sessions. POP use aside, if we focus here on what most people use Gmail with, their web browser, I would like to start a discussion about the benefits of Fastmail.fm vs. Gmail f

What web browser do you use with Tor? (firefox excluded)

Firefox users aside, what web browser do you use with Tor? I've decided to explore other options, and give other web browsers a try with running Tor as a client. I would like to hear from others who use browsers other than Firefox, and list their reasons for using an alternative. Remember, if you'

Re: The use of malicious botnets to disrupt The Onion Router

Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote: A manually administered . . . centralized list? Because, call me crazy, but a centralized list of "authorized routers" has some very, very obvious flaws in it, both technical and security-related. Maybe a trust model? Ie like Facebook.. I trust my friends.. t

RE: The use of malicious botnets to disrupt The Onion Router

> Nice thougt, but on second thought impracticable for various reasons: > as > you pointed out, it sacrifices security, which IMO is not up for On face value it does - but I wonder if we might find ways to compensate for that. More hops maybe. Before TOR existed I gave thoughts to a file sharing s

Re: Fastmail.fm better E-mail for Tor users than Gmail? HTTPS!

Thomas Barvo schrieb: [blabla] I am not affiliated with Fastmail.fm. [blabla] Honestly, I don't believe you. What you wrote there sounded more like propaganda than a discussion, let alone a serious one. Plus, there's other *free* services out there that provide SSL encryption for webmail. C

Re: The use of malicious botnets to disrupt The Onion Router

On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 10:59:18PM -0800, Ben Wilhelm wrote: > A manually administered . . . centralized list? Because, call me crazy, > but a centralized list of "authorized routers" has some very, very > obvious flaws in it, both technical and security-related. Some of us Tor operators know o

Re: Fastmail.fm better E-mail for Tor users than Gmail? HTTPS!

Logging into gmail with https://mail.google.com keeps you in https at all times. So there. ~Anil On 2/2/08, Thomas Barvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A lot of Tor users seem to prefer using Gmail as it appears to be one [blah] >..ounts with Tor please. >

HTTPS Free Webmail alternatives to Gmail [split from:] Re: Fastmail.fm better E-mail for Tor users than Gmail? HTTPS!

On 2/2/08, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honestly, I don't believe you. What you wrote there sounded more like > propaganda than a discussion, let alone a serious one. You're reading it wrong, then. I used the extra effort to mention I was not a part of the webmail service, nor did I recomme

Re: Fastmail.fm better E-mail for Tor users than Gmail? HTTPS!

On 2/2/08, Anil Gulecha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Logging into gmail with https://mail.google.com keeps you in https at > all times. So there. This is not always true when using Tor with Gmail, even when you initiate the session with https://mail.google.com ! I and several others have posted on

RE: The use of malicious botnets to disrupt The Onion Router

> Some of us Tor operators know other Tor operators. As such a (web of) > trusted core network would be valuable. Anyone else interested in this? I'm a coder, unfortunately I do not like C (nor C++) so I can't help out much there... How big is the TOR code? The idea would be that your trusted fri

Re: The use of malicious botnets to disrupt The Onion Router

Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu schrieb: Some of us Tor operators know other Tor operators. As such a (web of) trusted core network would be valuable. Anyone else interested in this? I'm a coder, unfortunately I do not like C (nor C++) so I can't help out much there... How big is the TOR code? Th

Re: Not using slow circuits (was Re: Tor slow no matter what I do.)

On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 02:06:17AM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > Perhaps there is a simpler quasi-solution here. Right now the tor > documentation suggests that one consider running tor in server mode if > one has at least 20 KB/s bandwidth to spare for its operation. > Perhaps changing that figu

RE: Not using slow circuits (was Re: Tor slow no matter what I do.)

> By increasing the minimum requirement for a Tor node, you reduce the > geographical distribution of Tor nodes, making cross-jurisdiction > routing more unlikely; it would be better to investigate ways to reduce > traffic overhead (if this is possible) to allow more people to run Tor > nodes. Doe

Re: HTTPS Free Webmail alternatives to Gmail [split from:] Re: Fastmail.fm better E-mail for Tor users than Gmail? HTTPS!

kids, https key negotiation goes on the same wire and through the same proxies as the content and stream control packets. have a nice day. Don't forget to check your bank account balance soon!

Re: Fastmail.fm better E-mail for Tor users than Gmail? HTTPS!

On Feb 2, 2008 11:55 AM, Thomas Barvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/2/08, Anil Gulecha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Logging into gmail with https://mail.google.com keeps you in https at > > all times. So there. > > This is not always true when using Tor with Gmail, even when you > initiate t

Re: another unusual connection

greetings! same sequence of events, same IP address. my relay had been running for just under 5 days. no other activity on the connection or on the box running the relay. Feb 02 17:16:49.093 [Notice] Our IP Address has changed from 87.194.38.72 to 212.112.242.159; rebuilding descriptor. Feb 02

Re: Not using slow circuits (was Re: Tor slow no matter what I do.)

Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote: By increasing the minimum requirement for a Tor node, you reduce the geographical distribution of Tor nodes, making cross-jurisdiction routing more unlikely; it would be better to investigate ways to reduce traffic overhead (if this is possible) to allow more people

Re: Not using slow circuits (was Re: Tor slow no matter what I do.)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote: (snip) > Does TOR implement QOS or prioritization? That is only use bandwidth when > other traffic is not present? This can be done further upstream of the Tor server, as long as the server is on a dedicated machine. J

Re: Not using slow circuits (was Re: Tor slow no matter what I do.)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Csaba Kiraly wrote: (snip) > My impression is that in P2P these solutions make people more > cooperative, since resources are sacrificed only if not in use. > Actually, I think documenting these in the FAQ would attract more people > to run relays. L

Re: Not using slow circuits (was Re: Tor slow no matter what I do.)

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:08:26 -0800 "F. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote: >(snip) >> Does TOR implement QOS or prioritization? That is only use bandwidth when >> other traffic is not present? > >This can be done further upstream of the Tor server, as long as the >s

Re: New Tor distribution for testing: Tor Browser Bundle

I did notice torbrowser was in the directory format that is friendly with PortableApps format applications, so props on that. Interesting take, taking what Portable Tor has done and bringing it to an all inclusive bundle. On Jan 31, 2008 1:40 AM, Scott Bennett <[EMAIL