Re: Geoip information

2009-02-17 Thread coderman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, downie - wrote: > ... > Hmm, > If I set logging to Info, try debug, i should have mentioned this before. it will be exceptionally noisy though :/ > ... start Tor from Vidalia, and watch the Connection > box in the Network Map, I see a connection opened to > geo

RE: Geoip information

2009-02-17 Thread downie -
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:03:02 -0800 > Subject: Re: Geoip information > From: coder...@gmail.com > To: or-talk@freehaven.net > CC: or-t...@seul.org > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM, downie - wrote: > > Hi, > > Vidalia has not been showing any geographic data for me for a couple of > > month

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread slush
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: > Really? I know that seems to be in accord with the received wisdom > on this list, but I, for one, no longer make that assumption. For one > thing, > my node spends most of the time handling somewhere between 15% and 50% of > its > pr

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:04:13 -0500 Roger Dingledine wrote: >On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 08:08:19PM +0100, Lexi Pimenidis wrote: >> > > little bit of investigation it turned out that one particular relay was >> > > always in a circuit that truncated those files, so I added it to my >> > > ExcludeN

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Syverson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 02:14:49PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > I'm with Bennett on this. Taking away ExcludeNodes is essentially taking > power and choice from tor users. > > Always always always default towards providing more choice and power > to users, not less. In any case, as indicat

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 08:08:19PM +0100, Lexi Pimenidis wrote: > > > little bit of investigation it turned out that one particular relay was > > > always in a circuit that truncated those files, so I added it to my > > > ExcludeNodes list. And voila' complete images from then on. > > > > Would n

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Praedor Atrebates
I'm with Bennett on this. Taking away ExcludeNodes is essentially taking power and choice from tor users. Always always always default towards providing more choice and power to users, not less. In any case, as indicated, reporting bad nodes is not exclusive of ExcludeNodes. ExcludeNodes is

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Adless Haven
Isn't ExcludeNodes widely enough used that if it was discontinued then people would use obsolete versions or try to hack Tor to get it back? The reason I use Tor is that it takes power from those collecting huge databases and puts it back in my hands. I would be a bit annoyed if I was unable t

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Lexi Pimenidis
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 05:54:51PM CET, Mitar wrote: hej, > > I just read Roger's message from July 2006 on playing down the use of > > ExcludeNodes and maybe eventually eliminating it. I encountered a reason > > to use it not long ago that doesn't seem to have been mentioned. I noticed > >

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:54:51 +0100 Mitar wrote: >On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: >> I just read Roger's message from July 2006 on playing down the use of >> ExcludeNodes and maybe eventually eliminating it. I encountered a reason >> to use it not long ago that doe

Re: Transparently anonymizing traffic iptables problem

2009-02-17 Thread unknown
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:42:03 + unknown wrote: > https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TransparentProxy : > > [quote] > > 2.1. Transparently anonymizing traffic for a specific user > > [code] > iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m owner --uid-owner anonymous -m tcp --syn > -j RE

Re: another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Mitar
Hi! On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: > I just read Roger's message from July 2006 on playing down the use of > ExcludeNodes and maybe eventually eliminating it. I encountered a reason > to use it not long ago that doesn't seem to have been mentioned. I noticed > that c

Suspended..

2009-02-17 Thread Andy Dixon
Hello, I have started to run a node, and my VPS provider has suspended my account with the following message. What would be the best response..? Thanks Andy Hello, It has come to our attention that your VPS was doing outbound attack and causing node overloading, due to this we have suspe

Re: Suspended..

2009-02-17 Thread Drew Sanford
Andy, As someone who works for a company which provides similar services, there is likely not much you can say. A VPS is likely not a good place to run a tor node from. You'd want a dedicated server, and it will likely include metered bandwidth. Just my perspective on this. Drew Andy Dixon

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread Praedor Atrebates
As a relay, it would be quite easy to never ever see full utilization. The main limiting factor would be entry nodes, or more likely, exit nodes. The number of exit nodes are MUCH lower than the number of relays so while your system may see little traffic, the exit nodes could easily be maxed

tor-ramdisk 20090217 released

2009-02-17 Thread basile
Hi everyone, I want to announce to the list that tor-ramdisk 20090217 is out. Tor-ramdisk is an i686 uClibc-based micro Linux distribution whose only purpose is to host a Tor server in an environment that maximize security (hardened binaries and kernel) and privacy (no logging at any level

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:46:41AM -0800, Germershausen wrote: > You should not use the tor network for bittorrent. If you live in china > or maybe the iran i would say ok, but you are living in Germany, People > like you make tor sick. If Tor is not abuseproof it will die. Anything starting with

another reason to keep ExcludeNodes

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Bennett
I just read Roger's message from July 2006 on playing down the use of ExcludeNodes and maybe eventually eliminating it. I encountered a reason to use it not long ago that doesn't seem to have been mentioned. I noticed that certain image files that are frequently updated and that I look at ma

Re: Whats the use of country.sh?

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:34:59 -0800 "Germershausen" double-top-posted: >To: or-talk@freehaven.net >Cc: or-t...@seul.org Please *stop* double-posting! > >I don' t like germans. Germans are incalculable, extremly bigoted and The pot referring to what it thinks is the kettle, eh? >fr

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread Marco Bonetti
On Tue, February 17, 2009 10:17, Germershausen wrote: > Ok, again, people like M. Bonneti from Italy and not "sigi" from Germany > make the tor network sick. :) stop trolling this list and post something useful. -- Marco Bonetti BT3 EeePC enhancing module: http://sid77.slackware.it/bt3/ Slackinto

Re: Whats the use of country.sh?

2009-02-17 Thread Germershausen
I don' t like germans. Germans are incalculable, extremly bigoted and from what i red in the past 4 years they haven' t learned from 13 or 14 years of nazi sovereignty. Olaf, you asked and this is my reply in shortness and with very very friendly words. If you like i can write this in sharper tone

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread Germershausen
Sorry for the missunderstanding "sigi". Thought you are the TO. Ok, again, people like M. Bonneti from Italy and not "sigi" from Germany make the tor network sick. :) On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:01:05 +, "sigi" said: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:46:41AM -0800, Germershausen wrote: > > You should

Re: Excludenodes not considered?

2009-02-17 Thread Germershausen
Oh lala. The tor developers should fix this issue. This is a extremly high security risk for people who need anonymity while using the internet from inside a "torture country" and use a rule like ExcludeNodes CN,HK, but are connected to fake servers hosted by the "torture governemnt" that uses a ma

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:40:23 + sigi wrote: >On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Marco Bonetti wrote: >> On Mon, February 16, 2009 22:17, Ted Smith wrote: >> > Yes, I believe the proper way to do so is to use Tor as the tracker >> > proxy, but conduct actual data transfer "in the cle

Re: Tor firewall for Linux iptables available?

2009-02-17 Thread Germershausen
Yes, i think you did not get it what i want. If i use tor it should be done from a 100% isolated environment. That means to me: All ports closed and the environment (tor + OS) should only connect to verified (via ip check) tor servers and nothin else. On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:00:29 +0100, "slush"

Re: No such file or directory: router-stabilit; unverified-consensus, cached-extrainfo

2009-02-17 Thread Germershausen
Thanks Nick, i figured this out by myself, but since i am new to tor i wasn' t sure. On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:40:03 -0500, "Nick Mathewson" said: > On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 03:33:23AM -0800, Germershausen wrote: > > I am using the Debian testing package with tor 0.2.0.34-1 and I am > > getting some

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread Germershausen
You should not use the tor network for bittorrent. If you live in china or maybe the iran i would say ok, but you are living in Germany, People like you make tor sick. -- Germershausen germershau...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different...

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread sigi
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Marco Bonetti wrote: > On Mon, February 16, 2009 22:17, Ted Smith wrote: > > Yes, I believe the proper way to do so is to use Tor as the tracker > > proxy, but conduct actual data transfer "in the clear". Or at least, > > that's what I've seen on this list

Re: Geoip information

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Bennett
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:03:02 -0800 coderman wrote: >To: or-talk@freehaven.net >Cc: or-t...@seul.org No need to double-post, coderman. :-) > >On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM, downie - wrote: >> Hi, >> Vidalia has not been showing any geographic data for me for a couple of >> months now

Re: Bittorrent

2009-02-17 Thread Marco Bonetti
On Mon, February 16, 2009 22:17, Ted Smith wrote: > Yes, I believe the proper way to do so is to use Tor as the tracker > proxy, but conduct actual data transfer "in the clear". Or at least, > that's what I've seen on this list in the past. Would anyone like to > correct me? it's also possible to r